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Author: OrmontUS   😊 😞
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Subject: Robbing Peter t0 pay Paul?
Date: 10/05/25 8:35 AM
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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/05/business/farmer...

The Trump administration credits American farmers for helping the president win the November 2024 election and feels they need to be protected. But the other reason they are making the agriculture industry such a priority, officials say, is because the Trump administration views protecting farmers as a national security issue.

Surging costs and foreign retaliation from tariffs have hurt the US agriculture industry — as have immigration-related labor shortages and plummeting commodity prices. Farm production expenses are estimated to reach $467.4 billion in 2025, according to the Agriculture Department, up $12 billion from last year.

Farm bankruptcies rose in the first half of the year to the highest level since 2021, according to US courts data.

Trump’s policies have exacerbated those woes, from the deportation of the industry’s key migrant workforce to renewed trade tensions between the United States and China. And for traditional American crops, such as soybeans, the situation has grown particularly precarious.

Over the past few weeks, the White House has held a series of interagency meetings with the Departments of Agriculture and Treasury as they attempt to finalize a relief package for US farmers, the sources said. Discussions over the best way to aid the agriculture industry are ongoing, the officials said, but they have zeroed in on two options.

The Trump administration also dipped into the fund, known as Emergency Commodity Assistance Program (ECAP), in March to similarly provide assistance to farmers. USDA at the time issued $10 billion in direct payments to eligible agricultural producers of eligible commodities for the 2024 crop year.

The administration has also discussed implementing a combination of the two, depending on where they can most quickly pull the funds from, one White House official said. The current range of aid they are looking to offer ranges from $10 billion to $14 billion. The final figure will depend on how much farmers need and the amount of tariff revenue coming in.

An issue complicating the Trump administration’s goals revolve around soybeans — America’s largest agricultural export, valued at more than $24 billion in 2024, according to USDA data.

Last year, about half of those exports went to China, but since May, that’s dropped down to zero as a result of an effective embargo China has placed on US soybeans in retaliation for Trump’s tariffs on the country. China has implemented 20% tariffs on US soybeans, making the crop from other countries significantly more attractive.

That couldn’t come at worse time for soybean farmers, with the harvest season in full swing and some farms reporting strong yields. And their luck might not change anytime soon, with Beijing ramping up its reliance on South America — inadvertently aided the US Treasury’s financial lifeline provided to Argentina in recent weeks.

Last week, the Trump administration said it would arrange a $20 billion lifeline to Argentina’s central bank, which would exchange US dollars for pesos to help stabilize Argentina’s financial market. Argentina also temporarily scrapped export taxes on grains to help stabilize the peso, but China didn’t waste any time.

Beijing purchased “at least 10 cargoes of Argentine soybeans,” according to a report from Reuters. Brazil has also helped meet China’s demand for soybeans, with both countries announcing a pact in July to deepen agricultural trade ties.

Jeff: From a macro standpoint, the tariffs, pragmatically a sales tax on the consumer, are supposedly designed to take the place of income taxes, yet this action is taking that revenue and transferring it to compensate a designated sector of our economy. This is like Whack-A-Mole - taking from the general population and using the funds to "make whole" a sector of the economy which those policies damaged. The tariff taxation and slush funds which could potentially reduce the deficit are now subsidizing farmers. Personally, I have nothing against farmers, but all actions have consequences and curing them causes yet a different area of damage. I would think that those actors (not to mention programmers, radiologists, receptionists, CPS's, lawyers, et al) who are displaced by the development of AI, also a government priority, could use the same logic to demand compensation.

Jeff

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Author: UpNorthJoe   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Robbing Peter t0 pay Paul?
Date: 10/05/25 9:41 AM
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"I have nothing against farmers, but all actions have consequences and curing them causes yet a different area of damage"

I have nothing against farmers, either. But they are obviously a protected class
in American society. It was obvious to everybody, including farmers, that the policies
Trump trumpeted in his Presidential campaign would seriously hurt farmers. But as you
stated, farmers heavily influenced the election results ( ie they overwhelmingly
voted Trump ).

So now the American consumer is paying more for food, and at the same time
American taxpayer is going to give a large amount of socialistic monetary support
to the farmers of America. We are getting screwed over from both directions.

Nothing we can do about it either, except hopefully force change in the 2026 midterms,
and then hope that Congress actually seizes back the power of the purse
that the current Congress has handed over to the Executive Branch.
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Robbing Peter t0 pay Paul?
Date: 10/05/25 11:37 AM
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I have nothing against farmers, either.

Living in Michigan, you should be as expert as I am, in watching the (L&Ses) in Lansing play a shell game. Like Snyder taxing my IRA distributions, to help cover two rounds of "JC" tax cuts.

Did you see the headlines about "no more sales tax on gas" in the new state budget?

from the Google net sifter:

Under a new budget deal passed by Michigan lawmakers in early October 2025, the 6% sales tax on gasoline will be eliminated and replaced with an increase in the state's per-gallon fuel tax
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This change is designed to redirect revenue toward road and infrastructure projects, addressing a persistent issue in Michigan's budgeting. The current system directs the sales tax revenue from gasoline to the School Aid Fund and local governments. The new plan is being described by legislators as a "gas tax swap".

Key aspects of the compromise

Gas tax increase: The state's current gas tax of 31 cents per gallon will be increased by 20 cents.

Revenue redirection: By converting the sales tax into a motor fuel tax, revenue from the gas pump will be legally designated for road and bridge repairs.

Minimal immediate change at the pump: The tax swap is structured to be "revenue-neutral," so drivers should not see a significant change in the total price they pay at the pump.

Impact on schools and local governments: To offset the loss of sales tax revenue, which previously went to the School Aid Fund and local governments, other budget changes were included. This includes new revenue from a wholesale marijuana tax and adjustments to other funds.


So, the (L&Ses) impose a big tax increase on weed, to make up for the lost sales tax revenue. So what will happen? If the taxed price of weed is high enough, people go back to the black market, state weed tax revenue falls, and the schools are defunded.

It is always a shell game in Lansing. The last time they increased fuel tax and registration fees "for road maintenance", in 2015, they withdrew road maintenance funding that had been coming from general revenue. So, there was no net increase in road maintenance funding. I had a very illuminated talk with the Canton Township engineer, at a public forum, a few years ago, when Canton put a proposal on the ballot to levy a local property tax, for road maintenance, because the state and county were not getting the job done.

Steve
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