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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Interesting Paragraph
Date: 09/17/2025 9:27 AM
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The document (The charging document) also said the suspect’s mother told investigators that “over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented. She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders.” <?i>

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/what-charges-cha...

The mom knew about his leaning left, and dating the trans. This is different from other accounts. More believable.
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Date: 09/17/2025 9:47 AM
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Lambo: More believable.

What now?

Robinson was raised in a strict Mormon faith, his family is republican as far as the eye can see, they all voted for Trump, the parents indoctrinated him in the gun culture in elementary school, and they all posed smiling gleefully with their semi-automatic weapons in photos they posted to social media. Robinson dressed for Halloween as Donald Trump and had deep Groyper community ties.

Yeah, so, sure, the Mom had no reason to try to deflect responsibility unto a son "leaning more to the left" and dating "a biological male who was transitioning genders."

Nope.

Nosiree.



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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Interesting Paragraph
Date: 09/17/2025 9:56 AM
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She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders.”

Love makes people do strange things. Robinson could have made an irrational choice in response to Kirk's bigotry, because the issue was very person to him.

But that won't stop the regime from making war on everyone who does not toe it's line.

Steve
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Date: 09/17/2025 10:01 AM
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and had deep Groyper community ties

Again, I don't think these assumptions are going to age well.

There's no evidence he had "deep Groyper community ties." There's evidence that he did some meme-y stuff - but memes propagate all over the place, especially among young people, and trying to establish "community ties" from the fact that someone repeats a meme is a fool's errand. The Helldivers 2 speculation is especially foolish, since that was one of the best-selling video games in the year it was released.

And what little we know of the suspect doesn't mesh with any strong Groyper affiliation. He doesn't appear to have had a large online presence. He appears to have been accepting of trans people (Groypers are anti-LGBTQ).

Dude might not have been left-wing, but I don't think there's a high probability that he was a Groyper or that his killing of Kirk had anything to do with the Groyper-Kirk conflicts.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 09/17/2025 10:08 AM
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Yeah, so, sure, the Mom had no reason to try to deflect responsibility unto a son "leaning more to the left" and dating "a biological male who was transitioning genders."

The jury is still out, but it's more believable when the mother says it, to me. Most moms love their sons, and if she knew he was dating, he was close enough to be honest with her it seems. Doesn't have to be and everyone has a right to be skeptical.
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Author: UpNorthJoe   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Interesting Paragraph
Date: 09/17/2025 11:09 AM
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"Dude might not have been left-wing, but I don't think there's a high probability that he was a Groyper or that his killing of Kirk had anything to do with the Groyper-Kirk conflicts."

I agree with what you are saying, the motive hopefully is revealed in time.

He was raised in one of the reddest States in the USA. His dad was a Utah sheriff,I think,
which is highly likely to mean Conservative. He is a Mormon, as far as I know they
are not known for being Liberal,lol. So whether Robinson had some type of
switch to being a liberal, he was undeniably raised in a Conservative household.

The right-wing propaganda machine is predictably falling all over themselves to come up
with anything to somehow, anyhow, anyway, blame this on the Left. They are full of
excrement.

I was not happy that Kirk got shot, and that it happened in front of his family
is terrible, horrible. I have watched a few utube vids of Kirk debating, I was not impressed with him in any way, shape, or form. Just another bellicose, belligerent Rush
Limbaugh clone, although young. He spewed some angry, vile rhetoric. His death does
not make him a martyr, to me anyways.
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Author: UpNorthJoe   😊 😞
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Date: 09/17/2025 11:21 AM
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"Robinson could have made an irrational choice in response to Kirk's bigotry, because the issue was very person to him."

the photo's I've seen of the family scrapbook at the shooting range, including 1 of him
launching an RPG, I believe, somehow remind me of the kid who shot up Oxford, Michigan
high school. Mommy bought him his own special handgun, and they had Mommy/Son
bonding moments at the shooting range. And when Son was hauled in on
mass-murder charges, Mommy suddenly downplayed all of the family bonding moments
at the shooting range.

So Mommy-Robinson looking for ways to shed guilt for her son's murderous actions,
to do anything to shed blame away from their surely God-fearing upbringing of
their Son, is par for the course. Not surprised at all by this, and don't
believe anything Mommy Robinson says, either. But it doesn't matter, the real
motive should come out over time. But there is no way that I'm giving any credence
to the right-wing propaganda machine trying to pin this on the Left. This boy
was one of them, from diapers onward.
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 09/17/2025 12:15 PM
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But it doesn't matter, the real motive should come out over time.

You ever make a fool of yourself, over a relationship? I have.


One of the reasons is that we tried to reconfigure society to accommodate and pander to a hypervocal minority that itself will never actually be happy regardless of how many changes we make for the alphabet mafia, it’s never going to be enough, right? Bathrooms, pronouns, whatever, but then it’s like we have to teach your four year old about whether or not they need to transition or not."

Plenty more at this link, from Grok.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/QLJewW4xFOvzYiPy8PYCtOg...

I learned, long ago, don't suggest to a 'Nam vet that the war was a waste. Some will get very angry, very fast.

Based on what has been published, his mom saying he had become more pro-gay and pro-trans, this could be all about the kid attacking a person he saw as stirring up hate against his partner. No broad political agenda at all. Entirely personal.

Steve

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Date: 09/17/2025 12:30 PM
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Based on what has been published, his mom saying he had become more pro-gay and pro-trans, this could be all about the kid attacking a person he saw as stirring up hate against his partner. No broad political agenda at all. Entirely personal.

That looks more and more likely.

Throw in a bit of withdrawal from the actual world and a bit too much time with online, apolitical trolls whose only orgasms seem to come by encouraging others to harm themselves or others……

There really are people in this world whose excitement comes from watching people punish themselves or others.
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 09/17/2025 12:47 PM
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That looks more and more likely.

I'd also like to know who is charging him? Is it the Feds or the state of Utah?

Frankly, I don't trust the Feds to tell the truth in a charging document at this point. I'm not that cynical about states yet. But if any state were to go down that path, Utah would be on the short list of states to start manufacturing "alternative facts."

--Peter
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Date: 09/17/2025 12:58 PM
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I'd also like to know who is charging him? Is it the Feds or the state of Utah?

The state of Utah. There's no federal crime here, based on the facts as yet known.
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Date: 09/17/2025 1:09 PM
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The right-wing propaganda machine is predictably falling all over themselves to come up
with anything to somehow, anyhow, anyway, blame this on the Left. They are full of
excrement.


It's crystal clear now that the right will hang their hats on the fact that this "good upstanding god loving gun toting scion of a deep red conservative family" was corrupted by a trans person. Therefor, it's open season on all trans people.
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