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Author: WendyBG 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 2034 
Subject: Control Panel: Gov't shutdown Weds?
Date: 09/28/2025 12:16 PM
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https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-to-host-...

Trump to Host Last-Ditch Talks to Avoid Government Shutdown
President is set to meet with congressional leaders on Monday, just ahead of deadline

By Siobhan Hughes and Katy Stech Ferek, The Wall Street Journal

The government will shut down Wednesday at 12:01 a.m. if Congress can’t pass a short-term spending patch. ...

Democrats have demanded Republicans make concessions, with a particular focus on extending enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies that expire this year. Around 20 million Americans could see higher insurance bills unless Congress acts...Democrats also want to restore Medicaid funding that was cut, and unfreeze federal spending approved by Congress but withheld by Trump administration officials....

Trump has cast Democrats as “crazy” and said blame for a shutdown would fall on them....
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Trump's statement shows that the meeting is just another photo-op for Trump to grandstand -- he has no intention of negotiating in good faith.

The shutdown will almost certainly happen on Wednesday. (Coincidentally Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement.) Critical services would continue, and Americans would continue to get Social Security payments and mail deliveries.

The last U.S. federal government shutdown, which lasted from December 22, 2018, to January 25, 2019 (a total of 35 days), saw a positive reaction from the S&P 500 index. During this 35-day shutdown, the S&P 500 returned a gain of approximately 10.3%. Even though Trump is promising to fire (not just furlough) many government workers during the shutdown the markets have completely ignored this.

As I post every week in the Control Panel, key indicators show the markets are overvalued. Morningstar says, "A measure of caution is warranted for investors." This is their delicate way of saying that several markets are in a bubble.

https://www.morningstar.com/markets/what-7-key-ind...

The economy is growing strongly. 2Q25 Real GDP growth was 3.8%. The Atlanta Fed's GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the third quarter of 2025 was 3.9 percent on September 26.

As expected, the Federal Reserve cut the fed funds rate by 0.25% in September even though the PCE inflation rate, like the CPI, is high. Every underlying inflation factor is "in the red" - more than 0.5% above the Fed's goal.

Quarterly annualized percent change

Quarter CPI Core CPI PCE Core PCE Updated
2025:Q3 3.24 3.39 2.82 2.91 09/26

The Fed is supposedly lowering the fed funds rate to improve the job market, despite the strong growth in the economy and high inflation. But that might not help.

https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/jobs-market-...


Rate Cuts Might Not Cure What Ails the Job Market
Tariffs, tight credit weigh on hiring plans while some channels for rate relief are clogged

By Justin Lahart and Ruth Simon

The Federal Reserve resumed its interest-rate cutting campaign earlier this month in an effort to reverse a stall in the job market. The problem: The hiring drought can’t be cured by lower interest rates alone, at least not soon.

Lower rates will help by bolstering demand, especially for interest-sensitive purchases such as houses. But many businesses say their problem, rather than demand, is a panoply of issues from high costs and tariffs to tight credit. The usual levers through which lower rates initially boost the economy—rising stock prices and lower mortgage rates—are also less potent than usual. ...

The Fed’s actions won’t make a difference unless they affect the cost of ingredients — which have jumped in response to tariffs — or of labor...

A survey by the Federal Reserve Banks found that 52% of small-business applicants (with small business meaning an “employer firm” — a business with at least one employee in addition to the owner) were approved for all the financing they asked for in 2024, down from 62% in 2019....
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Small businesses (defined by the Small Business Administration as those with fewer than 500 employees) employ approximately 45.9% of American workers in the private sector. These companies, many of which are very small (self-employed or < 10 employees) have no access to the bond market for financing. Cutting the fed funds rate won't help them employ more people. Even big companies like Starbucks are laying off.

The options market is predicting two more 0.25% cuts in the fed funds rate by the end of 2025. This is likely to lead to higher inflation but unlikely to help the job market much.

President Trump is frantically trying to pack the Fed to bring the fed funds rate down to 1%. He doesn't seem to understand that the fed funds rate is an overnight rate. Bond traders will force the long-term rates higher if they anticipate inflation. That will push mortgage rates higher.

In fact, the Treasury yield curve is already starting to get steeper. Long-term bond yields are beginning to climb even as the short end is dropping.

The stock market continues its rising trend. The trade which has been strongly risk-on for weeks has hesitated in the past week. The Fear & Greed Index is neutral. VIX is low.

The Price-to-earnings ratio based on average inflation-adjusted earnings from the previous 10 years, known as the Cyclically Adjusted P/E Ratio (CAPE Ratio), is 40 compared with the historic median of 16. The bubble continues to inflate. The housing bubble also continues to inflate.

Gold, silver, oil and natgas are rising. Copper is gradually rising after its sudden drop in August.

The Chicago Fed’s National Financial Conditions Index (NFCI) which provides a comprehensive weekly update on U.S. financial conditions in money markets, debt and equity markets, and the traditional and “shadow” banking systems is steady. Conditions are very loose, providing a tsunami of credit to inflate the bubbles.

The METAR for next week is sunny. I don't think the government shutdown will adversely impact the markets.

Wendy

https://www.clevelandfed.org/indicators-and-data/i...

https://www.atlantafed.org/research/inflationproje...

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPGDPAI

https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow

https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cm...

https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/candleglance.ht...

https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/candleglance.ht...

https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/candleglance.ht...

https://www.cnn.com/markets/fear-and-greed

https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe

https://www.chicagofed.org/research/data/nfci/curr...

https://www.chicagofed.org/research/data/nfci/curr...

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CSUSHPINSA
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Author: OrmontUS 🐝🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 2034 
Subject: Re: Control Panel: Gov't shutdown Weds?
Date: 09/28/2025 1:08 PM
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The meeting is being engineered to make sure the Democrats get blamed for the shutdown as well as the "permanent" job losses which will ensue. To some in the administration, those job losses are a boon.

Jeff
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Author: Timer321   😊 😞
Number: of 2034 
Subject: Re: Control Panel: Gov't shutdown Weds?
Date: 09/28/2025 1:15 PM
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The Republicans are in the power position. Cut taxes and cut the budget.

That power will destroy the economy and many lives.

So be it. It is an absolute lack of ethics. There is not one bone of honesty in discussing what happens. Spoiler alert, it ain't good.
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Author: Timer321   😊 😞
Number: of 2034 
Subject: Re: Control Panel: Gov't shutdown Weds?
Date: 09/28/2025 1:19 PM
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Jeff,

We will get blamed, but no one is buying it. Wait till the country figures out that being bad and looking bad is bad.

The economy is going to freeze over from here on out. We are rushing into serious problems. Economic outcomes are not understood, so they are discounted by the masses.

As Powell says, risk on all sides. Risk is what an older man on Wall Street sells to a foolish young man.

When the FDIC gets axed, it will be because, "We told you a long time ago, the Democrats had programs we never could afford".

The debt will be defaulted on.
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Author: InParadise   😊 😞
Number: of 2034 
Subject: Re: Control Panel: Gov't shutdown Weds?
Date: 09/28/2025 3:43 PM
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Lower rates will help by bolstering demand, especially for interest-sensitive purchases such as houses.

Don't know that "lower" rates have impacted our market, but our local housing market definitely is seeing an upward trend. Sellers for the most part have held their ground and buyers seem to have capitulated, or simply home from Summer vacation. Even with the new construction, inventory is constrained in our area.

IP,
holding her breath until inspections are over this week, more because it gives buyer ability to back out for insignificant reasons than because we are concerned about something being wrong
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