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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Rubic ✧  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Residency by Investment in EU for US citizen
Date: 07/09/24 3:21 PM
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Hi oddhack.

I have experience that I can share about an American citizen's
path to residency in Portugal, since that is one of the two
countries you mentioned. (Spain being the other one.)

Before I continue this thread, however, it might be a good idea
to mention your options in Portugal.

1. First, if you're planning to live here 8+ months per year, then
the Golden Visa/Investment route isn't necessary. The Golden
Visa was often used by people who wanted to bypass the "living
in Portugal" residency requirements. Even the 8 months/year can
be adjusted for residency under specific circumstances (e.g.
business travel abroad).

> I'm old enough that this is probably the only way I could
> qualify for permanent EU residency with a path to citizenship,
> which is my goal.

2. Would you be retiring in Portugal or do you plan to continue
to work/be employed whilst living here? I ask because that may
change how you approach meeting the requirements slightly.
I'm retired.

> Before I get started with screening calls, I'm wondering about
> the feasibility of finding, screening, and working directly with
> such a lawyer. I'm guessing costs will be in the $10-20K range
> between travel, legal fees, government fees, etc.

3. I handled everything myself without the use of a lawyer. It's
a pretty straightforward process and you can always hire a lawyer
if you get stuck. Note that lawyers and relocation agencies often
push the Golden Visa program because it generates larger fees.

If you can provide answers to (1) and (2), I'll let you know if
you can avoid (3) and avoid residency by "investment".

Kind regards,

-Rubic
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