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shs, at 5 AM, PAC time. UNREAL $$ pouring into trump, I have a hunch what the huge surprise is but I'm reluctant to share it. HUGE $$ is betting even trump can't blow this.
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I wonder who's buying? Putin? Xi? Un?
Oh Emoluments Clause, you will be missed!
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I wonder who's buying? Putin? Xi? Un?
Probably just retail investors/gamblers.
It's a meme stock. Meme stocks trade on vibes, not fundamentals. DJT will move up and down with sentiment about his candidacy.
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Probably just retail investors/gamblers.
Maybe. We actually don't know. Whoever wants to buy influence...Emoluments Clause you will be missed!
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Maybe. We actually don't know. Whoever wants to buy influence...Emoluments Clause you will be missed!
But....how would that buy you influence? Unless Trump is selling stock, buying stock doesn't put any money in his pocket.
The potential for buying influence through DJT doesn't lie in buying the stock, but in buying services from the company. Spending money for ad buys on Truth Social beyond what would be commercially justifiable (I'm sure there's a handful of companies that buy small amounts there today).
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But....how would that buy you influence? Unless Trump is selling stock, buying stock doesn't put any money in his pocket.
Buying shares of DJT could potentially allow for influence over Donald Trump in a few key ways:
Foreign investors could influence the stock price through large purchases or sales, knowing that fluctuations in DJT's value would have a direct impact on Trump's personal wealth.
This could be used as leverage to influence policy decisions.
Foreign investors or governments could attempt to curry favor with Trump by investing heavily in DJT stock. If Putin owned 35% of DJT will Trump pick up the phone when he calls?
A major shareholder can strongly influence a company. (See: Carl Icahn.)
Trump is set to receive additional shares based on DJT's stock performance over time. Foreign entities could time their investments to help Trump reach these milestones.
Finally you are 100% correct: Foreign governments could spend large sums on advertising on Truth Social or enter into lucrative partnerships with Trump Media & Technology Group.
This would boost the company's revenue and stock price, benefiting Trump.
Of course Putin, Xi, or Iran could also just make donations to Trump in untraceable crypto, which he is currently accepting.
Or they could just buy all of Trumps watches and sneakers.
Or they could just invest large sums into World Liberty Financial, Trump's cryptocurrency venture.
There are many avenues for Trump to be bought. Emoluments Clause you will be missed!
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Buying shares of DJT could potentially allow for influence over Donald Trump in a few key ways
None of those would actually work.
Driving up the price of DJT stock only confers wealth to Trump if he sells his stock at the time they drive up the price. A "pump and dump" only works if you dump at the time the pump is working. That's hard to do. You can't permanently drive up the price of a stock through your own purchases - once you stop buying, it will revert to whatever the rest of the float is doing.
Putin (or other foreign investors, like a sovereign wealth fund) can't buy 35% of DJT without disclosing it. I mean, they probably can't buy that much anyway (Trump owns 60% of the shares). But if they go above 10%, they have to disclose.
And I think all Trump's extra shares bonuses have already occurred - IIRC, they were all measured before the lock-up period expired.
All of that is insanely complicated compared to just buying $100 million worth of ads on Truth Social, of which 60% of that value falls to Trump.
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All of that is insanely complicated compared to just buying $100 million worth of ads on Truth Social, of which 60% of that value falls to Trump.I don't think buying a sizable position in DJT is "insanely complicated" but to each their own.
Point being there are so many ways to buy Trump, do whatever works for ya!
If you are looking for the simplest way to buy Trump why not just give him $100 Million in unregulated, untraceable crypto...
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/crypto"Unregulated Crypto Assets can facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity." ~Donald Trump, before he started accepting crypto donations.
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All of that is insanely complicated compared to just buying $100 million worth of ads on Truth Social, of which 60% of that value falls to Trump.
If he gets elected it’s gonna be worth a lot (or at least a lot more than at present.) If he doesn’t it’s worthless.
The advertising is a mechanism to put 60˘ dollars in his pocket, sure, but it’s also a way to reach him, directly, without intervention:
Ridiculously simple example tweet:
“Halliburton. Working to secure America’s future with a new pipeline in Oklahoma!”
“Hey guys, get some funding to Haliburton, they’re doing great things for my oil buddies.”
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Point being there are so many ways to buy Trump, do whatever works for ya!
If you are looking for the simplest way to buy Trump why not just give him $100 Million in unregulated, untraceable crypto...
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/cryptoWow, just wow. And wow again. Maybe I haven't been paying attention to campaign solicitation language (not "maybe", I haven't at all) and this is all standard now, but Jumpin' Jiminy! From that link:
...funds will be allocated...90% to DJTFP first to its general election account and then its recount account...They are already setting aside funds for a recount! That is, if you can actually believe what they say, which is a stretch, because they also throw in the Ultimate Disclaimer:
By contributing you understand and acknowledge that the recipient committees may use your contributed funds for any reason, as determined in their sole discretion, consistent with their obligations under federal election law. No statement contained in any solicitation should be reasonably understood or construed as a promise, earmark, or other designation to make any specific use of funds you contribute.Wow. And we all know how diligent Trump is about abiding by federal election laws.
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Wow. And we all know how diligent Trump is about abiding by federal election laws.
Yeah, I loved this part as well...
Federal law requires us to use our best efforts to collect and report the name, mailing address, occupation, and name of employer of each individual whose aggregate contributions exceed $200 in an election cycle or calendar year, as applicable.
LOL Trump will use his best efforts!
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" But....how would that buy you influence? Unless Trump is selling stock, buying stock doesn't put any money in his pocket."
albaby, trump represented that he wouldn't be selling any shares this year. BUT, he never said he wouldn't be, borrowing against his shares. There are creative ways to sell, without actually outright selling the shares. Anyone in bed with Musk and Patrick Byrne of Overstock fame, has more moves than the highest price, talent, at the Chicken Ranch! What a country.
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albaby, trump represented that he wouldn't be selling any shares this year. BUT, he never said he wouldn't be, borrowing against his shares. There are creative ways to sell, without actually outright selling the shares.
Sure - but again, going out and buying shares on the open market creates only a temporary change in the share price. The "pump" doesn't last very long, before the price just reverts to whatever the rest of the market is doing. Which is why pump and dump schemes rely on thinly traded securities, visible efforts to get other people to join in, and "dumping" within a short time after the pump starts.
So me going out and buying $100 million worth of DJT is going to have virtually no impact on Trump's personal finances in any time frame other than a few weeks, which makes it impossible for him to realize any value from it unless he happens to sell during that short window. Borrowing against the shares wouldn't do that, since any lender is going to do a look-back of more than a few weeks.
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" So me going out and buying $100 million worth of DJT is going to have virtually no impact on Trump's personal finances in any time frame other than a few weeks, which makes it impossible for him to realize any value from it unless he happens to sell during that short window. Borrowing against the shares wouldn't do that, since any lender is going to do a look-back of more than a few weeks."
bud, does your malpractice liability policy cover, securities law? If trump is borrowing today, based on 70 % of the bid, is he benefitting from today's rally? Thanks.
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bud, does your malpractice liability policy cover, securities law? If trump is borrowing today, based on 70 % of the bid, is he benefitting from today's rally? Thanks.
Who's going to lend him money based on the daily bid from today's rally? If Trump wanted to obtain a securities based line of credit of any material amount using his DJT holdings as collateral, he's going to have a bank underwriter looking at more than the spot price.
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I wonder who's buying? Putin? Xi? Un?
I was thinking similarly. My guess would be the Saudis.
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But....how would that buy you influence? Unless Trump is selling stock, buying stock doesn't put any money in his pocket.
Like you said earlier, it's a meme stock. It moves in sync with Trump's political fortunes.
But which is the cause and which is the effect? Could someone buying up the stock improve Trump's political fortunes?
I think so. Hence the speculation of helping Trump politically by buying up his company stock. Right now, winning the Presidency may be more important to Trump than money. It's the quickest and most sure solution to many of his legal issues.
--Peter
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If Trump wanted to obtain a securities based line of credit of any material amount using his DJT holdings as collateral, he's going to have a bank underwriter looking at more than the spot price.
Why does the lender have to be a highly regulated bank? Couldn't it be something like a foreign sovereign wealth fund?
But I'm still sticking with my previous thought that its a meme stock connection working to improve political fortunes.
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Why does the lender have to be a highly regulated bank? Couldn't it be something like a foreign sovereign wealth fund?
I mean, sure. But then....what are we talking about here? I mean, a foreign sovereign wealth fund could give Trump a $200 million mortgage on Mar-A-Lago, also, with a wink and a nod about how there's no need to worry about paying that back during his lifetime. There's no dearth of ways to get money to a President who has lots and lots of active business interests, as long as you're willing to leave a paper trail.
The reason DJT looks different is because you can buy and sell on the open market without anyone knowing you're doing it, so that seems to open up the possibility of shenanigans - but if the SWF is making the loan, rather than buying the securities, then they've created the same paper trail as if they had just loaned him a gazillion dollars against his stake in Trump Org.
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simplest answers for the recent bounce is djt was a dormant meme stock that fooled people by low volatility during (May-Sept) months of steady decline
IF there is some data on a huge boom in the number of unique new retail investors absorbing the increased float, then i would have no explanation for that. the volume has increased along with the higher float, but it could be mostly cyclic speculators.
if there are private quasi-legal sales of large blocks, there are obvious reasons they may not yet be public. other finance boards speculate fines for some actions may be small relative to profits...or at least would take a long time if contested in court.
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Of course Putin, Xi, or Iran could also just make donations to Trump in untraceable crypto, which he is currently accepting.
Or they could just buy all of Trumps watches and sneakers.
Or they could just invest large sums into World Liberty Financial, Trump's cryptocurrency venture. - vsg
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You forgot the proven effective method.
They could put Barron on the boards of a few state controlled businesses and pay him exorbitant amounts for his non-experience.
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Good morning Albany, there is a huge difference between borrowing against your house etc and your securities. If, if, trump borrows against his stock, the lenders can sell pieces to reduce the balance whenever they feel the balance is at risk. In the early 90s I tried to convince contacts at the SEC that these transactions should require an 8 k filing. When any insider or at least a, controlling insider, pledges their stock as collateral for a loan, it should be disclosed, especially if the securities are, restricted. Does anyone know if a filing is required currently to, disclose, these transactions? My guess is no, there is still no disclosure requirement which puts the public at risk. Thanks.
