Halls of Shrewd'm / Political Asylum
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AI overview
While the definition can vary, in late 2021, the Pew Research Center classified about 12% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents as "Progressive Left," characterized by very liberal views and high political engagement. This group was a distinct segment within the broader "left," which includes other categories like "Establishment Liberals" and "Democratic Mainstays".
Key Characteristics of the "Progressive Left" (Late 2021)
Ideological Stance:
They hold extremely liberal positions on issues like government scope, foreign policy, immigration, and race.
Self-Identification:
A large majority (79%) identified their views as liberal, with 42% describing themselves as "very liberal".
Political Engagement:
This group is highly politically active, with high voter turnout rates and frequent discussions about politics.
Demographics:
They are a relatively young and highly educated group, with a majority being white.
Party Affiliation:
They are part of the Democratic coalition, though some may identify as independents who lean Democratic.
Context: A Broader "Left"
The "Progressive Left" is not the entirety of the left; it's a specific segment within it. Other groups within the Democratic-aligned spectrum, like "Establishment Liberals" or "Democratic Mainstays," are also considered part of the left but have different characteristics and levels of ideological alignment.
Me: I think we make a mistake to talk about progressives without giving some perspective. The floor is open to disagree with the above, but I do think ~12@ of Dems is reasonable. Only about one out of 10 of the left is really progressive. I've never been progressive, I crossed over from being considered conservative because the country moved right. All of Al's points are well noted, but they apply to only 12% of the left and characterized as what we all believe by Dopers, etc.
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All of Al's points are well noted, but they apply to only 12% of the left and characterized as what we all believe by Dopers, etc.
You’re forgetting where I live.
On the west coast, the moderate democrats were all run off. It’s more like 90% of “progressives” believe everything I say about them.
Too bad for you.
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You’re forgetting where I live.
On the west coast, the moderate democrats were all run off. It’s more like 90% of “progressives” believe everything I say about them.
I can’t speak to where you live, except to say that 90% figure is doubtful.
However, that’s not what people believe here, even if it is near Ann Arbor, tofu eating capitol of the known universe.
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However, that’s not what people believe here, even if it is near Ann Arbor, tofu eating capitol of the known universe.
Here’s an immutable trait of liberals for you: they’re all reluctant to speak their minds when they go against the herd. Can’t do it.
That principle of “in for a penny, in for a pound” is why you see green groups out there with the Hamasniks and other random causeheads. The interesting thing is that never disagreeing with the liberal orthodoxy has carried over to everyday left wingers - it’s not until you create a psychological permission structure for them safely speak their minds will they open up.
It’s why libs in big cities will walk right past graffiti, trash, and zombie homeless guys and not say anything (nor change their votes). You guys really ought to be congratulated on creating a class of people so afraid to be cast out of the herd for political heresy.
Not that that’s anything to celebrate.
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Dope:You’re forgetting where I live. (NO)
On the west coast, the moderate democrats were all run off.
NO. I lived in Southern California for 30 years, plenty of moderate Democrats. So you're wrong on all statements so far.
No. of Recommendations: 4
NO. I lived in Southern California for 30 years, plenty of moderate Democrats. So you're wrong on all statements so far.
Hahahahaha. Southern Cal ain’t Cascadia, homie.
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Dope: On the west coast, the moderate democrats were all run off.
Dope: Southern Cal ain’t Cascadia,
When people think of the west coast they think of California. Washington and Oregon are distant seconds.
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When people think of the west coast they think of California. Washington and Oregon are distant seconds.
And that wasn’t the topic, but you earn the coveted Brown Star for making the attempt to switch it up!
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And that wasn’t the topic,
Oh, yes it was - you even created it by saying the West Coast. Nice obfuscation of your continual miisnformed-ation.
