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Author: OrmontUS 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 15062 
Subject: Delinquency on current consumer loans
Date: 08/22/2023 8:13 AM
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I was listening to a piece on this morning's news (ABC with commentary from Cox Automotive) about the higher rate of car loan defaults being generated by a combination of higher prices and higher interest rates.

OK, that makes a lot of sense, and increased consumer debt is a contributing factor to recessions, etc.

But being a cynic at heart, I did a bit of research and came up with the following data:

In depth view into US Auto Loans Delinquent by 90 or More Days including historical data from 1999 to 2023, charts and stats.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_auto_loans_delin...

https://www.axios.com/2023/08/15/credit-loan-delin...

So maybe August's data will be terrible, but compared to historical numbers, while the credit card trend is rotten not mentioned in the news piece), the car loan default rate appears to be about average and the news story seems to be serving someone's interests.

It does, however, point to a useful data stream which should be watched as the underlying theory of increased defaults is plausible and if/when true, a canary in the coal mine.

Jeff
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Author: BenSolar   😊 😞
Number: of 15062 
Subject: Re: Delinquency on current consumer loans
Date: 09/03/2023 2:40 PM
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Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the commentary.

The second link you provide indicates that
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-The rate of new credit card delinquencies has surpassed its pre-COVID level, clocking in at 7.2% in the second quarter, per a report out this month from the New York Fed.

-Auto loan delinquencies were at 7.3% in Q2, also higher than pre-pandemic levels.

-Meanwhile, mortgage delinquencies remain very low.
"

https://www.axios.com/2023/08/15/credit-loan-delin...

So maybe people are just starting to be delinquent, rather than 90+ days delinquent as tracked in your first link?

The Axios story goes on to say:
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Returning to pre-COVID delinquency levels isn't something to stress over at the moment ' delinquency rates on credit cards before 2020 were relatively low thanks to the strong job market.
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Author: Aussi   😊 😞
Number: of 221 
Subject: Re: Delinquency on current consumer loans
Date: 09/18/2023 8:34 PM
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Jeff

I too, being a cynic checked.

A chart using ycharts to be consistent with auto loans shows no real change in credit card delinquencies for the last year and below the rate from mid 2019.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_credit_card_acco...

Craig
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