Outskirts of Shrewd'm / Pandemics
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As 2023 comes to a close, the nation will "finish the year with its biggest annual drop in homicides on record, according to preliminary data from law enforcement agencies both large and small.
The homicide rate in the United States is expected to plummet nearly 13% compared to 2022, meaning more than 2,000 fewer people were the victims of homicide this year..."
Yet despite the historic drop in homicides and violent crime, more than three-quarters of Americans say there is more crime in the U.S. than a year ago. Some Americans <cough> republicans </cough> are completely uninformed or they just love to feel angry.
Cities say the 2023 drop in homicides and other violent crimes can be attributed to expanded efforts to prevent crime, including working with community volunteers, targeting gun possession in high-crime areas and placing officers on foot and bike patrols.
"It is historic. It's the largest one-year decline," said Asher, co-founder of AH Datalytics and a former crime analyst for the CIA and the New Orleans Police Department. "It's cities of every size, it's the suburbs, it's rural counties, tiny cities, it's large cities. It's really a national decline."Homicides are...
DOWN 11% in NYC
DOWN 16% in LA
DOWN 13% in Chicago
DOWN 11% in Houston
DOWN 15% in Phoenix
DOWN 21% in Philadelphia
DOWN 25% in New Orleans
DOWN 25% in Baltimore
... and on and on.
Detroit saw homicides fall to a 60-year low. As some noted here, it was because people moved out of Detroit. Evidently there was a mass exodus from every other city and town in American, too.
Dallas and Memphis were outliers, with homicides rising 14% and 36% respectively.
BTW, the record RISE in crime occurred in 2020 when some other fella' was president.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/homicide-numbers-poised-...
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Yes, the crime rate for these cities have declined.
The populations of ALL these same cities have declined.
People are fleeing the high crime rate democrat run cities.
So I would think it would stand to reason why the crime rates has dropped.
Less people to rob, murder, etc.
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LurkerMom: Yes, the crime rate for these cities have declined.
The populations of ALL these same cities have declined.
People are fleeing the high crime rate democrat run cities.
So I would think it would stand to reason why the crime rates has dropped.
Less people to rob, murder, etc.
Umm, didn't read the article or the statistics, I see. But thank you for proving the disconnect.
Despite the historic drop in homicides and violent crime, the average American simply refuses to believe reality.
And that's the real news: three-quarters of Americans say there is more crime in the U.S. than a year ago in spite of the fact that the opposite is true.
And no, no one is fleeing. No, every city and every town in America is not seeing an exodus of citizens. But virtually every city and town in America is seeing a dramatic, unprecedented decline in violence and homicides.
Can't stand it, can ya'?
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Yes, I've been reading about the statistics. Yes, Republicans in particular seem to want to believe it is getting worse.**
However, the increase in 2020 I thought was mostly being attributed to COVID, and the restrictions that required. I don't recall where I heard it, but someone joked that the rise in violence was because families had to spend time with each other at home instead of escaping to school, work, vacations... (yeah, they phrased it so it was actually funny...I am not a comedian).
So with the lifting of restrictions, and life going back to normal, I would expect a drop in the crime that increased when the restrictions were imposed. Regardless of who is POTUS.
**Though I know a few religious people that say we're close to "end times" because things are getting "worse and worse". Except they aren't, which I point out to them every time they bring it up. People are living longer, fewer people are in poverty (as a percentage of the population), crime (especially violent crime) is near historic lows, etc. But they still insist it's getting "worse and worse".
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Ooo, a crime thread!
Let’s look at true blue Seattle.
2016 - 16
2017 - ~28
2018 - 28
2019 - 28
2020 - 52
2021 - 42
2022 - 52
2023 - 70 through November
https://www.king5.com/amp/article/news/local/seatt...Murders and what not are functions of city, county and state governments. You can really see the effect of bad governance…its hard to describe how amazing Seattle was just a few years ago and how a lot of things have fallen apart in just a few years due to a few really, really stupid decisions made by politicians more interested in signally virtue than governing.
If I want to depress myself I’ll pull up the car theft rates. The new thing here is to
1) steal a Kia, since Tik Tok shows you how
2) ram it into some business’ front door
3) loot the place
4) drive off in the backup
Gonna go visit my neighborhood bike shop, who had that happen to it in November.
People who gaslight on crime - and we have a load of them here in Seattle - are among the most dishonest idiots you’ll ever come across.
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Murders and what not are functions of city, county and state governments.
Sure. As well as region-specific factors. I don't know the specifics of Seattle, so can't really comment. I did notice when we were there a large concentration of drugged-out vagrants just up-hill from the piers, but also a STRONG police presence there. But I don't know what is behind that. There may be things peculiar to Seattle that are in play. Is Tacoma similarly affected? Puyallup?
San Francisco is having a problem with car break-ins. Mark Rober (inventor of the glitter bomb) actually tackled that as part of his glitter bomb series, and determined that SF was NOT closing down a known fencing operation (for whatever reason). So...lax enforcement? Seemed like it.
The OP was talking about national statistics. While your perceptions are colored by local events (as are mine), zoom-out a bit and overall things are substantially better. That may not comfort someone in a "hot zone", but the fact remains that nationally it is improving.
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Can't stand it, can ya'?
Shrug, really doesn’t affect me. I don’t live in the Chicago area where traffic is
bumper to bumper and regardless of a mini drop in crime you’d best be home before
dark, especially in NYC.
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And no, no one is fleeing. No, every city and every town in America is not seeing an exodus of citizensAccording to Census Bureau data, between April 2020 and July 2022, New York City's estimated population slumped from 8.80 million to 8.34 million, a drop of roughly 468,000 residents — nearly 5.3% of the city's total population.
https://www.google.com/search?q=population+decline...Los Angeles County can lose about 1.4 million residents from 2023 until 2060, newly released data from California’s Department of Finance shows.
Currently, the county’s population for 2023 stands at 9.5 million, a decrease from the 10 million population figure the county had in 2020, according to the report.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/more-than-1-4-mil...85% OF ILLINOIS COMMUNITIES LOSE PEOPLE IN 2022; CHICAGO LOSES 33K
by Bryce Hill MAY 17, 2023
85% of Illinois communities lose people in 2022; Chicago loses 33k
1,108 Illinois communities of all sizes shared in the record loss of more than 104,000 residents in 2022, according to new Census Bureau data. Chicago lost 32% of the state’s total.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/85-of-illinois-comm...Houston is a city located in Fort Bend County, Harris County, and Montgomery County Texas. Houston has a 2023 population of 2,264,876. It is also the county seat of Harris County.Houston is currently declining at a rate of -0.51% annually and its population has decreased by -1.53% since the most recent census, which recorded a population of 2,300,027 in 2020.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/housto...n 2021, Phoenix, AZ had a population of 1.59M people with a median age of 34.1 and a median household income of $64,927. Between 2020 and 2021 the population of Phoenix, AZ declined from 1.66M to 1.59M, a −4.06%
https://datausa.io/profile/geo/phoenix-az/#:~:text...Philadelphia population continues downward trend: Census data
https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadel...Louisiana’s population drops for third straight year
https://www.nola.com/news/politics/louisianas-popu...Census report finds Baltimore City and county losing residents
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/census-report-...There is a population decline in the eight cities you listed.
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I did notice when we were there a large concentration of drugged-out vagrants just up-hill from the piers, but also a STRONG police presence there. But I don't know what is behind that. There may be things peculiar to Seattle that are in play. Is Tacoma similarly affected? Puyallup?You're describing 3rd Avenue, which the city let devolve into an open-air drug and stolen goods market:
https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/14981233085160...(From 2022)
HAPPENING NOW: Just hours after a shooting on 3rd Ave in Downtown Seattle, the insanity has returned. This is the stretch between Pike/Pine St. Open air drug use, sales of all kinds of merch, trash everywhere. How is this allowed?San Francisco is having a problem with car break-ins. Mark Rober (inventor of the glitter bomb) actually tackled that as part of his glitter bomb series, and determined that SF was NOT closing down a known fencing operation (for whatever reason). So...lax enforcement? Seemed like it.
it's not just that. The cops are only the 1st link in a very broken chain.
*Politicians pass laws like high dollar limits for shoplifting, cashless bail, no pursuits for car thefts, etc.
*Police quit en masse
*Prosecutors refuse to prosecute
*Judges release criminals back out into the wild
It's happened up and down the west coast. You should be glad to live in a purplish place that doesn't put up with the extreme woke elements.
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Accepting reality isn’t something he’s ever going to do.
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**Though I know a few religious people that say we're close to "end times" because things are getting "worse and worse". Except they aren't, which I point out to them every time they bring it up. People are living longer, fewer people are in poverty (as a percentage of the population), crime (especially violent crime) is near historic lows, etc. But they still insist it's getting "worse and worse".
Seems likely it is, at least in part, due to the 24 hour news outlets that are constantly trying to grab peoples attention. And fear and sensationalism work. The right wing media has really perfected this, pumping out constant 'news' full of hate and fear.
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Seems likely it is, at least in part, due to the 24 hour news outlets that are constantly trying to grab peoples attention.
I think it's also to keep adherents in-place. "End times" was being preached by Jesus (or whomever the character of Jesus is based upon), and it was apparently expected within his lifetime (before ~50AD, roughly). Well, almost 2100 years later, and we're still waiting. But it must be "soon", or else people will get bored and wander away. Which they are already doing, based on the PEW numbers for non-belief recently. So it is even more urgent to say "it's End Times!" to scare people into the pews, disgorging their wallets into the collection plates.
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So it is even more urgent to say "it's End Times!" to scare people into the pews, disgorging their wallets into the collection plates.The signs are everywhere. /s
See the
Rapture Ready website...
https://www.raptureready.comThe Rapture Ready Index is at 188! Getting so close now! But it always is getting SO close.
The Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Church will occur when Jesus returns to earth right before the seven-year Tribulation. All those who are not ready will be left behind. This website is the most complete resource for understanding end times prophecies and news relating to the last days. You will find current news reports, articles, and biblically-based information with the emphasis on prophecy. For those who remain and must endure the Tribulation, we have information on how to become Tribulation saints. RaptureReady.com features articles from prophetic end times experts, scholars, and writers that explain what will happen during the Tribulation, as well as articles on a variety of topics related to the books in the Bible. Our ultimate goal is to teach visitors about the saving grace that comes when you allow Jesus Christ to become your personal Savior.
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I agree with Hitchens on this point...actually, a lot of his points. But he said (paraphrasing) "I don't understand the eagerness for the end of the world". I don't.
As for being left behind, I think if we can get rid of all the religious fanatics (of all types), being "left behind" would be great. Then we could really fix some problems, no more wars over whose god gave which people some land, etc.
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LM:
Chart and table of population level and growth rate for the New York City metro area from 1950 to 2023. United Nations population projections are also included through the year 2035.
The current metro area population of New York City in 2023 is 18,937,000, a 0.37% increase from 2022.
The metro area population of New York City in 2022 was 18,867,000, a 0.23% increase from 2021.
The metro area population of New York City in 2021 was 18,823,000, a 0.1% increase from 2020.
The metro area population of New York City in 2020 was 18,804,000, a 0.01% decline from 2019.
https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/23083/new-york-...
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"I don't understand the eagerness for the end of the world". I don't.
Because they will be going to their 'reward' and all of us non-believers, or believers of 'false faiths' will get the punishment we deserve. Kind of sick, really.
