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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: STOP ENGAGING WITH FASCISTS
Date: 01/29/26 3:44 PM
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albaby1, suppose I’m speaking with someone who would plug very different numbers into the Ratio than I would. How would I use this information and/or act on it in order to be more persuasive?

I would argue that having a more humane system means more criminal deportees get caught.

Don't argue about the effects it has on the "good" unauthorized immigrants - the ones who are like Valjean, who have done something wrong but are still good people. Rather, point out that being indiscriminate in who gets put into the system is a terrible misallocation of resources. The more "good guys" get targeted the fewer resources are available for the "bad guys."

It's not just material resources either, like money or agents or detention facility space. It burns up intangible resources. For example, the federal judiciary is absolutely bonkers livid at ICE right now, because their docket has suffered under an avalanche of habeas petitions and emergency injunction requests and all sorts of proceedings because ICE is acting so heedlessly:

“The Court’s patience is at an end,” Patrick Schiltz, the chief judge of Minnesota’s federal district court, wrote Monday.

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Schiltz said the court has been “extremely patient” with the administration, even as thousands of agents descended on Minnesota to detain noncitizens without a plan for the hundreds of legal challenges that were “sure to result.”

Roughly 3,000 ICE and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) personnel are on the ground in the Minneapolis area conducting enforcement, the government disclosed in a court filing this week.

“Respondents have continually assured the Court that they recognize their obligation to comply with Court orders, and that they have taken steps to ensure that those orders will be honored going forward,” the chief judge wrote.

“Unfortunately, though, the violations continue,” he said.


https://thehill.com/newsletters/the-gavel/5708925-...

Now when ICE agents show up with legitimate requests for those courts for matters dealing with the real bad guys in order to get the real bad guys out - requests for warrants or unusual procedural moves or what have you - they're now at a huge disadvantage. Because the judges are not going to be inclined to take them at their word that they need something, or that they'll comply with conditions of an order or warrant, or whatever. They've used up all the goodwill and deference that normally attends the federal government.

Public cooperation (or at least no protests), local government coordination, funding requests, being dragged to oversight hearings - if you act like an agency that pays some attention to whether it's acting reasonably or not, you will have an easier time going after the real baddies than if you act like an agency that doesn't give a short about anything.

So, this kind of hardball immigration operation that operates with absolutely no consideration for the mostly good people who are getting swept up in it is ultimately self-defeating. It hurts the goal of getting as many bad guys locked up or deported, rather than helps.
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