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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: BiPartisan Policies
Date: 10/31/2024 5:50 PM
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You said that national democrats are "center left". I don't think you have enough experience with the outer reaches of your party, what they value, and what life under their regimes is like.

I've spent some time in the far hinterlands of the party....but again, that's not really germane to the discussion. Life under their "regime" isn't any more indicative of where the national party is than what life under the most conservative small rural Bible Belt town is compared to the national GOP. Because the national party isn't going to be as extreme as its most extreme elements. That's just the nature of a political coalition.

Sure about that?
The national party is running a candidate who
-Supports bans or restrictions on fossil fuels (despite what she says now)
-Is pro-criminal (despite what she says now)
-Is Pro-open borders (despite what she says now)


Oh, sure, the national party is running a candidate that has taken liberal positions. But there's a reason why the national party hasn't banned fossil fuels - or even significantly restricted them, preferring to instead subsidize alternatives. The national party hasn't adopted "pro-criminal" measures, or "pro-open border" measures. The Green New Deal, defund the police, and decriminalization of border crossings all were floated by the progressive wing, and they all died when they ran into the shoals of the national coalition.

Because there's lots of less progressive Democrats that want no part of that. They'll support the national candidate while she's running for office - just like there's lots of budget hawk Republicans that will support Trump regardless of his nonsensical ideas for handing out exemptions from income tax left and right - but that doesn't mean they'll have any truck with the actual policies if a proposal ever made it to the hill.

You can't look at the most extreme politicians to get a sense of where the party as a whole is.
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