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Author: TheReitStuff   😊 😞
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Subject: A contrary take on the oil crisis / iran
Date: 03/13/26 12:55 AM
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1. Oil is in strong backwardation.

https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/energy/crude-oil/...

26MAY 100.83

26JUN 97.17

26JUL 93.69

26SEP 87.57

26DEC 81.36

27MAR 75.81

The organisations with the most money at stake in oil, seem to believe oil will be much cheaper in the near future than today.


2. Oil is a much smaller factor now for inflation than it was in the past e.g. in the 1970s / 1980s.

Partly that's increased efficiency (lights, cars, computers etc), partly alternatives such as renewables.

But basically a $10 rise in the price of oil adds up to only 0.1% on CPI (short term direct use) and 0.1% (long term indirect use) if it persists.

It varies by country, the US is quite energy intensive (8% of CPI basket). The UK less so (6%). Petrol (gasoline) is about 2% of the UK CPI basket.

These aren't really scary numbers as long as we don't get an extreme tail risk situation of e.g. 10 year war that collapses all oil production in the region.


3. I cannot see why the US Republicans would entertain an oil crisis continuing during the US midterm elections when they are already facing problems.

Nor can I see why any of the wealthy middle eastern states would want this to continue.

Even for Iran, oil spills affect their water supply potentially (you can't desalinate oil). No oil being sold affects their economy. Ultimately, you need food and water and money.


4. My own investments are in UK REITs. The UK 10Y gilt has adjusted from 4.3% (and falling) to 4.8% in the last week or two.

I suppose that suggests +5% extra total inflation over a 10 year period, (or rather, slightly more, given that high oil prices shred the 'growth' part of bond yields).

This has caused UK REITs to re-price by about -15%, ish. i.e. If you have assets yielding 5-6% and they reprice up by 0.5% to 5.5-6.5%, then you lose about 10%. Add the impact of gearing, etc.

However, in the long term many REITs benefit from inflation feeding through in contracts that are linked to inflation.

So it's short term pain for long-term gain I suppose, in this sector.


5. I acknowledge there is a tail risk that both sides can't or won't back down for some reason and it just gets worse.

That will shred pretty much every stock.

But then again. Midterms. And Trump is famous for 'chickening out'.


6. The intensity of Iran's response has greatly diminished.


7. The media love hype and narrative and don't enjoy 'ehh maybe it will be fine' type stories. The long tail risk outcomes are where the entire media focus is.

But as investors we should take precaution against tail risk but focus on the most probable outcomes.

It is important not to let the news sway you. Putting a journalist effectively in charge of your financial decisions doesn't strike me as a great plan.


8. Trump notoriously tends to repeat the last thing he heard. He kept talking about 4-5 weeks at the start. Lately, 'not finishing this week'.

Coincidentally 4-5 weeks is about when minesweepers, escort convoys and allied fleets are expected to be in place to try to resolve this.

I believe, on balance, we are probably about 2-3 weeks from the end of this.

I think it's not a storm in a teacup but neither is it the end of the world.


That's my take, anyway.

TRS
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Author: InParadise   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A contrary take on the oil crisis / iran
Date: 03/13/26 5:49 AM
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5. I acknowledge there is a tail risk that both sides can't or won't back down for some reason and it just gets worse.

That will shred pretty much every stock.

But then again. Midterms. And Trump is famous for 'chickening out'.


Sorry, but I don't see that happening here. Not because Trump has found a backbone, but because conflict and fear is what he needs to declare a state of emergency, (not that he needs a valid reason,) to put controls in place to fulfill his promise that we will never need to vote again and mess with the Midterm Elections. He needs to continue to distract all of us from the Epstein Files while finding a way to block our voices as he rapes and pillages the nation, increasing his own net worth exponentially, which is all the glory he needs. He is past the point of no return, and knows that when he is no longer in power, he is in deep kimchee. What choice does he have other than staying in power? It is well beyond time to stop thinking in terms of what was normal for a "conventional" presidential motivation.

There is always ways to make money in an up or down market, particularly when there is insider information flowing about future "unseen" events. This will keep his allies happy, at least until our vote is taken away and he no longer needs them. We small people do not matter.

There has been no rational thought put into this war, and looking for rational ways to get out is pointless as well. This country as a whole chose to ignore character in choosing their leader. This is what it looks like. As for Iran, they are so culturally different in their thinking from ours and fighting for their very existence. They will pursue their vision of glory in death until there is no one left to achieve the glory. There is no winning in surrender for them. This will not end quickly.

IP
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Subject: Re: A contrary take on the oil crisis / iran
Date: 03/13/26 7:11 AM
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Sorry, but I don't see that happening here. Not because Trump has found a backbone

Well Donald could just declare victory and leave, but that wouldn’t change things. He is no longer in charge of this war. You know who is? Iran. With the closing of the Hormuz Strait they have put their finger on the artery of the world by essentially closing off 20% of the world oil supply and they know it.

Reitman asked if this doesn’t hurt their economy as well: of course it does. Then again, bombs raining down out of the sky all over the country hurt the economy too, and everyone in the country knows where they’re coming from - so it’s all too easy to blame all this on The Great Satan (that us, as in US) aided and complicit with the Little Satan (Israel.) That plays wonderfully politically if you’re an Ayatollah, and if you’re a religious fanatic (Group 1) or the actual powermongers, the IRGC (Group 2), so a little short term pain is well worth it.

Meanwhile, Donald cannot just “walk away” with the Strait closed. It requires not just “military presence”, but increased military presence from what is there today. Already 16 ships have been attacked, and they are frighteningly vulnerable to drones which can be launched at remove at these juicy targets. Oh, and mines.

(Students of the map may notice that while the Strait of Hormuz is the most obvious choke point, the Persian Gulf borders Iran all the way up and down on one side, while the other is home to Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, and Oman, all of whom depend on that waterway for their exports.) Iran has chosen to weaponize this economic lifeline, and there’s not a lot the US can do about it. We have a couple of “strike forces” in and a few other assets “nearby” (that’s maybe 20-30 ships? not all of which are combat equipped), but not nearly enough to provide enough cover to make the trip worthwhile for Maersk, Lloyd’s, and the others who really make the decisions.

In wartime if you have a button, you press it. I think Iran has a button.

Meanwhile, Israel is expanding the war elsewhere, Bibi is in a re-election year and the war is popular there, so why would he stand down? We have other people at the controls, and Donald “has a feeling”. Swell.
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A contrary take on the oil crisis / iran
Date: 03/13/26 10:40 AM
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There has been no rational thought put into this war,

Actually, there is, and the timing, weeks after seizing control of Venezuelan oil, is no coincidence either. I positioned myself in late 2024.

Steve
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Author: TheReitStuff   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A contrary take on the oil crisis / iran
Date: 03/13/26 12:55 PM
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>Actually, there is, and the timing, weeks after seizing control of Venezuelan oil, is no coincidence either. I positioned myself in late 2024.

Congratulations Steve! Very well anticipated.

I had been looking at oil stocks myself in January 2026, but any company that does business with the US right now is too scary for me.

I remember how BP was shredded by compensation payments, and that was in the era of an ethical and sane Presidency.

All it takes is 1 engineer making 1 very bad mistake at the wrong moment on 1 rig.

Or 1 guy randomly deciding to tariff oil, coerce the over-supply of oil, or whatever.

TRS
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Author: TheReitStuff   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A contrary take on the oil crisis / iran
Date: 03/20/26 6:19 PM
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BBC: "Trump says US considering winding down war in Iran"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce84073mr06t?page=...

TRS
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