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Author: PucksFool 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Anne Applebaum looks at "Trump's" p
Date: 11/23/25 4:52 PM
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The 28-point peace plan that the United States and Russia want to impose on Ukraine and Europe is misnamed. It is not a peace plan. It is a proposal that weakens Ukraine and divides America from Europe, preparing the way for a larger war in the future. In the meantime, it benefits unnamed Russian and American investors, at the expense of everyone else.

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The central points of the plan reflect long-standing Russian demands. The United States would recognize Russian rule over Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk—all of which are part of Ukraine. Russia would, in practice, be allowed to keep territory it has conquered in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson.

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... it also seems deliberately designed to weaken Ukraine, politically and militarily, so that Russia would find it easier to invade again a year from now, or 10 years from now. According to a version of the text that appeared in the Financial Times yesterday, the plan does state that “Ukraine’s sovereignty would be confirmed.”


People need to stop comparing Trump to Neville Chamberlain. It is becoming clear that Donal J. Trump is cut from the same shoddy bolt of cloth as Vidkun Quisling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidkun_Quisling
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Date: 11/23/25 5:31 PM
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People need to stop comparing Trump to Neville Chamberlain. It is becoming clear that Donal J. Trump is cut from the same shoddy bolt of cloth as Vidkun Quisling.

No need to drop the comparison.

“Quisling” is the path Chamberlain may well have followed had Hitler invaded England.
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