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NPR reported the news Hamas reporters put out there for two years without verifying the reports.

NPR plastered those reports, and little else was reported.

Since 2024, there has been a major famine in Sudan. NPR is now saying famine was declared last week in Sudan.

Truly, NPR has a very low bar for verifying reports. Now the network is covering its tracks. The famine in Sudan had been going on for over a year before NPR found it as a new concern.

Large numbers of people got into Jew bashing with NPR's support. There was no break in the reporting for much of anything else.

Google AI
A famine was officially declared in North Darfur, Sudan, in August 2024, initially at the Zamzam camp for displaced people. Subsequent reports from November 2025 have confirmed that famine conditions have spread to additional areas, including the cities of El Fasher and Kadugli.

NPR reported the news Hamas reporters put out there for two years without verifying the reports.

You have a link for this, I presume?

Truly, NPR has a very low bar for verifying reports

And this too, I presume?

You have a link for this, I presume?


Goof,

I am discussing unverified news reports by NPR. Why would there be a link? NPR has never claimed to verify the news out of Gaza for the last two years. In none of NPR's stories during the period do they ever claim to have verified a single thing.

Do you know a lie when you hear one? Hamas reporters lied to the Western press for two years.

Would a link make that better or something? Does someone who reports false news to begin with have more credibility?

Recently, some Hamas militants in captivity have claimed torture and inhumane treatment. Israel is officially claiming it followed the law. Who are you going to believe? Someone who wants to poison your mind or the truth?

Yes, one case of bad treatment does exist, and the Israelis are seriously looking at it.

You can get a link for that one case. You can get links where Israel says they followed the law.

But can you verify torture generally by Israel of Hamas militants? No, and you do not have a link. You have NPR spreading a lie.

I am discussing unverified news reports by NPR. Why would there be a link? NPR has never claimed to verify the news out of Gaza for the last two years. In none of NPR's stories during the period do they ever claim to have verified a single thing.

Clearly there are organizations not fond of NPR which would have documented these sorts of things, in writing, in posts, in stories that they would have verified. There are none.

You are mouthing off on things you do not know anything about except your own prejudice, unfounded by fact, celebratory in your ignorance.

If you are going to make accusations, then it is incumbent on you to offer proof. You have none, except “Oh, I’m sure this is true.”

When NPR has reported out of Gaza they have done it with “eyes on”, or in the cases where they do not have carefully attributed the reportage to “officials claim” or similar words. In no case are they simply making things up - although I’m happy to change my opinion if you have the slightest shred of proof.

I’m willing to bet you don’t. You never do. You just mouth and mouth and mouth. You’re worse than a Right Wing bloviator, except less predictable.

You are mouthing off on things you do not know anything about except your own prejudice, unfounded by fact, celebratory in your ignorance.

Goofy,

Hamas has claimed genocide since the first day of the war. The population of Gaza increased every single month of the war.

NPR and the rest of the Western press reported genocide. I am talking about NPR, but they are not alone.

Was it genocide or spreading lies that end up as Jew hatred?

If you can not discuss things without put-downs, you do not belong on this board. Besides, it shows you do not have a leg to stand on.

When NPR has reported out of Gaza they have done it with “eyes on”, or in the cases where they do not have carefully attributed the reportage to “officials claim” or similar words. In no case are they simply making things up - although I’m happy to change my opinion if you have the slightest shred of proof.

I’m willing to bet you don’t. You never do. You just mouth and mouth and mouth. You’re worse than a Right Wing bloviator, except less predictable.

Goofy,

The Israeli government would not let any of the press into Gaza for almost all of the two years of the war.

NPR never had "eyes on" reporting. NPR never claimed "eyes on" reporting.

You need to stop accusing me of making things up.

NPR took reports from Gazans only during the war. The Gazan reporters were in three camps, Gazan reporters scared of Hamas, Gazan reporters who sympathized with Hamas, and individual Hamas members as reporters. Take that for what its worth.

No. of Recommendations: 10

That is the problem with the old fool format.

The 10 recommendations are a failure for this board. Popularity contests can run to the lowest common denominator.

I have asked that the post be deleted because it does not help a healthy discussion.

No one should be insulting anyone else. I have a very thick skin. I figure Goofy lost the entire discussion and spirit of discussion in general with his comments.

Clearly there are organizations not fond of NPR which would have documented these sorts of things, in writing, in posts, in stories that they would have verified. There are none.

Goofy,

Clearly you made zero attempt to look. Google AI puts together information from several sites including NPR to make the following statements.
The only thing wrong with the following statement NPR did not state with each report that it was unverified. NPR very rarely stated anything on its network or having to do with Gaza is unverified.

Goofy to make it clear because you do not read thoroughly: NPR claims they did not verify Gazan reports

It takes a bigger man to apologize. I won't expect an apology.

AI Overview
NPR seeks to verify reports but faces significant challenges due to Israeli restrictions that ban independent foreign journalists from entering Gaza. This has led to the organization relying heavily on local Palestinian journalists and qualified sources, while explicitly stating when information cannot be independently verified.
Key points regarding NPR's verification process and challenges:
Reliance on Local Journalists: Due to access restrictions, NPR relies on local producers and journalists within Gaza, such as producer Anas Baba, to gather information and report on the situation on the ground.
Explicit Qualification: NPR reporters have made it clear in their broadcasts that they cannot independently verify all footage and claims. For example, when referencing figures from the Hamas-run health ministry, NPR is often criticized for not consistently mentioning that the ministry is subservient to Hamas, although previous conflicts have shown the ministry's numbers to be close to those later confirmed by independent organizations.
Access Restrictions: NPR, along with numerous other international news outlets, has joined appeals and even challenged the Israeli government in the Supreme Court to allow independent access to Gaza.
Military Censor Review: When NPR reporters have been allowed into Gaza on tightly controlled, escorted visits by the Israeli military, their raw audio and video were subject to review by Israel's military censor.
Addressing Information Gaps: NPR has produced content specifically explaining the difficulties of reporting from Gaza and how these challenges affect the verification process.
In summary, NPR attempts to verify all reports and is transparent about its limitations, often qualifying information when independent verification is not possible due to the unique reporting environment in Gaza.

A few people have suggested I put Goofy on ignore. Others have been there.

I offer this as friendly advice.

Most people know of Y-Combinator indirectly because an ex-president, Sam Altman, is the CEO of OpenAI. It is an old startup seed incubator, one of the originals. They would give relatively large groups of very early stage startups relatively small sums of seed money at fixed terms, and then support them in various ways. The founders were mostly from Viaweb (Yahoo! Store) and some widely recognizable companies that came out of there were Reddit, Strip, and AirBnb.

But they have a social media site, Hacker News, that has been a reasonably stable community. The site guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) cover content, submissions, and commenting, and I'm just going to reproduce the commenting guidelines here:

Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

Don't be curmudgeonly. Thoughtful criticism is fine, but please don't be rigidly or generically negative.

Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes.

Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something.

Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that".

Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead.

Throwaway accounts are ok for sensitive information, but please don't create accounts routinely. HN is a community—users should have an identity that others can relate to.

Please don't use uppercase for emphasis. If you want to emphasize a word or phrase, put *asterisks* around it and it will get italicized.

Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.

Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did.

Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.

Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.


I don't agree with all of them, and fail to adhere to them too often, but being kind, thoughtful, substantive, negative, avoiding name-caling, assuming positive intent, and thoughtful criticism are pretty great advice. I particularly like the examples of how certain comments can be shortened.

ajm101,

The sentiments are nice, but Goof has always had a sharp tongue. People find it entertaining.

He has not had substance for about five years now.

I put him on ignore. Several people here have him on ignore. They truly dislike his mouth.

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