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Author: richinmd   😊 😞
Number: of 5386 
Subject: Gold Timing
Date: 01/28/26 1:36 PM
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While cleaning out files on my hard drive I came across this old (2010) "timing" post by Jim. Can't say I ever followed it but with the gold surge maybe it is of value, if it is still accurate.

Rich


I don't buy gold.
But, I have to admit that the price of gold does make an interesting spectator sport.

One of the truisms of gold bugs, that gold is a good stable long term
measure of value, means that it's not going to make you any money if
you hold it forever---so you need a rule of when to buy and sell.
http://boards.fool.com/i-dont-buy-gold-but-i-have-...
Here's a little rule of thumb: The price of gold goes through bull
and bear market cycles, and one of the simplest tests is whether the
price of gold made a new recent high in the last 7 months or so.
(optimal is 145 trading days = about 6.9 months, but why quibble).

"Recent high" has to be defined---I use "price went higher than the
average of the trailing 3-month, 4-month, 5-month, and 6-month highs".

When the answer is "yes, it made a new recent high in the last several months",
the price has gold has risen at a rate of 16.1%/year on average.
That's 73.7% of the time since June 1969.
The rest of the time the price of gold has fallen at a rate of -10.1%/year.

So, sell when there hasn't been a new recent high in around 7 months.
This rule has been bullish continuously since 2001-05-17.
The most recent "new recent high" was 2010-11-09, so you'd need another
one some time by around June 7th for it to stay bullish.

Jim
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Author: lizgdal 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Gold Timing
Date: 01/28/26 4:06 PM
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Keeping with the old files theme. This webpage, from the year 2019, has charts for "The 1970s 1980 Gold Bull Market" and "21st Century Gold Bull Market Ongoing".
https://web.archive.org/web/20191019165305/https:/...
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Author: RAMc   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Gold Timing
Date: 01/28/26 5:18 PM
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Why are so many a look at gold predictors? You might think there is some uncertainty in the air.

Cross-Asset Price-Based Regimes for Gold

https://quantpedia.com/cross-asset-price-based-reg...
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Author: richinmd   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Gold Timing
Date: 01/28/26 5:52 PM
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As far as gold goes I purchase it last January when it was obvious to me that the new administration wanted a weaker dollar. I bought gold and moved a lot of my money into international ETFs. So far that has worked out quite well. Now I'm looking for some quality international stocks I can buy. I don't buy a lot of individual stocks (currently own less than 10) but I wouldn't mind adding a few international stocks.

I did cash in a gold coin I bought 25+ years ago. It had no meaning to me. I picked it up during a work trip to the mideast.

I was just cleaning my hard drive and stumbled upon Jim's post and with all of the current gold talk, it seemed appropriate to post.

Rich
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: Gold Timing
Date: 01/30/26 10:49 AM
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While cleaning out files on my hard drive I came across this old (2010) "timing" post by Jim. Can't say I ever followed it but with the gold surge maybe it is of value, if it is still accurate...

I gave it a test, from mid 2010.

It didn't add value. In short, the suggested 145 day time-out was way too long. CAGR in bullish and bearish periods were very similar, and backwards. No joy.

But the general idea has held up, sort of. Most of my models for gold created somewhat later suggested much shorter timeouts. I say "sort of" because none of them used as a long/cash signal beat buy and hold, but they did distinguish pretty strongly between high-return and low-return eras, much like the 99 day rule for the S&P 500. I imagine it's difficult to watch your gold position sit way below its peak for a decade, as it did.

Other time-outs for this model:
Classic 99 day rule worked better. Bullish 74% of the time, CAGR on bullish days 11.5%, CAGR on bearish days 3.9%

Examples:
No new high in last 25 days: Bullish 38% of the time, CAGR on bullish days 18.8%, CAGR on bearish days 4.1%
No new high in last 45 days: Bullish 50% of the time, CAGR on bullish days 19.0%, CAGR on bearish days 0.8%
No new high in last 75 days: Bullish 62% of the time, CAGR on bullish days 15.4%, CAGR on bearish days 0.3%

I didn't calculate it, but the 45 day version must have had a nice ulcer index...it held onto most of the gains from the peak around 2012 rather than leaving you way below your portfolio peak until the new bull market started in 2019. It had an average of 1.3 round trips per year.

Jim

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