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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Some real perpspective
Date: 01/02/2025 3:50 PM
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https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1874860659504263...

FBI official: The NOLA terrorist posted on Facebook that he pledged allegiance to ISIS before last summer.

Dude put videos up on Facebook proclaiming his allegiance to ISIS. Didn't even try to hide it.

There's a delusion in this country that started in ~2008 that the real enemy America faces doesn't come from terrorists, the Chinese or the Russians but instead comes from...American citizens. For 12 of the last 16 years we've had to put up with law enforcement at the federal level more concerned with parents at school board meetings and little old ladies praying near abortion clinics than with oh, securing the southern border or with rooting out Islamic extremists like this guy,

So now we have New Orleans and these little darlings in New York:

https://mxmnews.com/article/e91d4d22-4a44-4d14-a3b...

Hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists marched in New York City on New Year’s Day, calling for “intifada,” a term associated with violent uprisings against Israel. The protest, held on Sixth Avenue in Manhattan, coincided with heightened tensions following two terror attacks in the United States.

The Times of Israel reported that the demonstrators chanted slogans such as, “We will honor all our martyrs” and “There is only one solution — Intifada revolution.” Protesters carried signs denouncing U.S. support for Israel and advocating against potential military action in Iran.


Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem and Donald Trump can't get here fast enough.
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Some real perpspective
Date: 01/02/2025 3:57 PM
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Here's what we gotta do.

When Progressives are all but marching in support of anti semitism, Anti Americanism, and sort of "sniffing" when they know what the chants mean.....

.....we need to insert a few people with signs saying "I don't like dudes in dresses using my daughter's school bathroom"

THEN you'll see these Progressives get all militant.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Some real perpspective
Date: 01/02/2025 4:39 PM
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Dude put videos up on Facebook proclaiming his allegiance to ISIS. Didn't even try to hide it.

Freedom of speech being practiced by a veteran of the US Army. So what's the problem.

President Elect Musk encourages cesspool social media; free speech!

Dude's an American, Texan, shifted to Islam. He's a homegrown Army trained domestic terrorist.

Tim McVeigh was raised Catholic and shifted to the Christian Identity movement. Another homegrown army trained domestic terrorist. Blame the Vatican or The Turner Diaries?

https://goodfaithmedia.org/an-accurate-look-at-tim...
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Subject: Re: Some real perpspective
Date: 01/02/2025 4:50 PM
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The bolded part in the next paragraph is the actual delusion.

DOPESTER: There's a delusion in this country that started in ~2008 that the real enemy America faces doesn't come from terrorists, the Chinese or the Russians but instead comes from...American citizens. For 12 of the last 16 years we've had to put up with law enforcement at the federal level more concerned with parents at school board meetings and little old ladies praying near abortion clinics than with oh, securing the southern border or with rooting out Islamic extremists like this guy, The bolded part is Dope's delusion.


SNIP HOMELAND SECURITY - Homeland Threat Assessment-2024

Executive Summary
Terrorism, both foreign and domestic, remains a top threat to the Homeland, but other threats are increasingly
crowding the threat space. During the next year, we assess that the threat of violence from individuals radicalized
in the United States will remain high, but largely unchanged, marked by lone offenders or small group attacks
that occur with little warning.
Foreign terrorist groups like al-Qa’ida and ISIS are seeking to rebuild overseas, and
they maintain worldwide networks of supporters that could seek to target the Homeland.
In addition to the enduring terrorism threat, we expect illegal drugs produced in Mexico... SNIP

It looks like the bolded statement above is dead on accurate about the attack in NOLA. So how is this a delusion? Please read all of the below:

SNIP TERRORISM
In 2024, we expect the threat of violence from violent extremists radicalized in the United States
will remain high but largely unchanged from the threat as described in the May 2023 National
Threat Advisory System (NTAS) bulletin. Over the past year, both domestic violent extremists
(DVEs) and homegrown violent extremists (HVEs) inspired by foreign terrorist organizations have
engaged in violence in reaction to sociopolitical events. These actors will continue to be inspired
and motivated by a mix of conspiracy theories; personalized grievances; and enduring racial,
ethnic, religious, and anti-government ideologies, often shared online.

• Since January 2022,: DVEs have conducted three fatal attacks in the Homeland resulting in 21
deaths and multiple non-lethal attacks. US law enforcement has disrupted over a half dozen
other DVE plots. During the same period, only one attack was conducted by an individual
inspired by a foreign terrorist organization. The individual—who is awaiting trial—was likely
inspired by a spiritual mentor of al-Qa‘ida and Taliban narratives and allegedly wounded three
New York City Police Department officers on New Year’s Eve.
[This isn't a delusion Dope]

• Collectively, these incidents focused on a variety of targets, including law enforcement,
government, faith-based organizations, retail locations, ethnic and religious minorities,
healthcare infrastructure, transportation, and the energy sector. The most lethal attack this
year occurred in May in Allen, Texas, where a now-deceased attacker killed eight people at
a shopping mall. The attacker was fixated on mass violence and held views consistent with
racially or ethnically motivated violent extremist (RMVE) and involuntary celibate violent
extremist ideologies, judging from his writings and online activities.
[You deny that this exists Dope? This is a delusion?]

• While violent extremists likely will continue using accessible, easy-to-use weapons for attacks,
they also will leverage online platforms and encrypted communications applications to share
novel tactics and techniques. Collaboration among violent extremists online likely will grow
as they strive to spread their views, recruit followers, and inspire attacks. Some RMVEs have
improved the quality of their video and magazine publications online, which could help them
inspire more like-minded individuals to commit attacks.

Foreign terrorist groups like al-Qa‘ida and ISIS are seeking to rebuild overseas, and they maintain
worldwide networks of supporters that could seek to target the Homeland. Among state actors, we
expect Iran to remain the primary sponsor of terrorism and continue its efforts to advance plots
against individuals in the United States.

• Foreign terrorists continue to engage with supporters online to solicit funds, create and share
media, and encourage attacks while their affiliates in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East prioritize
local goals. Since the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, ISIS’s regional branch—ISIS‑Khorasan —
has garnered more prominence through a spate of high-casualty attacks overseas and
English‑language media releases that aim to globalize the group’s local grievances among
Western audiences. Individuals with terrorism connections are interested in using established
travel routes and permissive environments to facilitate access to the United States.

• Iran maintains its intent to plot attacks against current and former US government officials
in retaliation for the 2020 death of Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-
QF) Commander and designated foreign terrorist Qassem Soleimani. Iran relies on individuals
with pre-existing access to the United States for surveillance and lethal plotting—using dual
nationals, members of criminal networks, and private investigators—and has attempted plots
that do not require international travel for operatives. In August 2022, the DOJ indicted an
IRGC-QF member for allegedly conspiring to assassinate a former US National Security Advisor
between late 2021 to mid‑2022. Iran’s surrogate Lebanese Hizballah also called for revenge
against the United States for Soleimani’s death SNIP

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-09/23...



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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Some real perpspective
Date: 01/02/2025 5:22 PM
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And yet, another guy who should have been flagged wasn’t, and here we are.

Keep proclaiming white nationalists as the SUPERBIGGESTTHREATWEVEDVERSEEN. That just makes it more believable.

Meanwhile…the southern border says, “hello”.

January 20th can’t get here fast enough.
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Subject: Re: Some real perpspective
Date: 01/02/2025 5:24 PM
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There's a delusion in this country that started in ~2008 that the real enemy America faces doesn't come from terrorists, the Chinese or the Russians but instead comes from...American citizens.

Was this guy not an American citizen?
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Some real perpspective
Date: 01/02/2025 5:34 PM
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Was this guy not an American citizen?

He was. Is ISIS a US group?
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Subject: Re: Some real perpspective
Date: 01/02/2025 5:45 PM
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He was. Is ISIS a US group?

It is not. But what does that have to do with anything? No one has denied the risks posed by radicalizing people who are already in the United States - whether they are radicalized by an international terrorist organization or by a domestic terror group:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_car_...

Both can induce someone to drive their car into a crowd in an effort to kill lots of people (how many people are killed, versus merely wounded, will depend on the crowd and the car and not the motivation of the driver).

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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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But what does that have to do with anything? Besides them radicalizing people here and abroad and encouraging attacks?
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Besides them radicalizing people here and abroad and encouraging attacks?

I meant, what does that have to do with your point? Everyone agrees that it is terrible when foreign terrorist organizations radicalize people in the United States and encourage attacks.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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I meant, what does that have to do with your point?

My point is that the adults can't get here fast enough to start reforming the national law enforcement apparatus.
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My point is that the adults can't get here fast enough to start reforming the national law enforcement apparatus.

LOL...because nobody cares more about law enforcement than a felon/rapist/fraud/liar...

...the billionaires that put him in office...

....and the VEEP-elect who wants the Executive to defy the SCOTUS. (See Chief Justice Roberts' indirect warning about JD Vance).
Judicial independence, he wrote, “is undermined unless the other branches [of government] are firm in their responsibility to enforce the court’s decrees.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/31/us/politics/chi...



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Subject: Re: Some real perpspective
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My point is that the adults can't get here fast enough to start reforming the national law enforcement apparatus.

What does that mean? Given the context of your post above, it sounds like you're suggesting that national law enforcement should start working with social media companies and flagging for formal investigation the type of content that might indicate that a person could be being radicalized into possibly driving a car into a crowd of people. Is that what you mean? I'm not sure that the "adults" you're talking about would want to do that, given their past opinions about how free speech on social media should be protected from government involvement, and that ideas that radicalize people into driving a car into a crowd of people aren't limited solely to international groups. Again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_car_...

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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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What does that mean?

It means actual leadership and a focus on what matters.

Given the context of your post above, it sounds like you're suggesting that national law enforcement should start working with social media companies and flagging for formal investigation the type of content that might indicate that a person could be being radicalized into possibly driving a car into a crowd of people. Is that what you mean?

They're already doing that. Have been for years.
But instead of looking for "COVID deniers", Trump supporters and parents wondering who us using their daughters' bathrooms at the local high school they should have been looking for guys like this.
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They're already doing that. Have been for years.
But instead of looking for "COVID deniers", Trump supporters and parents wondering who us using their daughters' bathrooms at the local high school they should have been looking for guys like this.


Do you have any evidence that they weren't also looking for guys like this? I doubt that national law enforcement has been "looking for 'COVID deniers'" in 2024, and I doubt they've ever been looking for parents talking about bathroom usage on social media. Any evidence at all that whatever procedures that might have been in place to scan social media during the Trump administration isn't still in place here in 2024? Or that "international terrorism" was taken off the list of things they were looking for?
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Do you have any evidence that they weren't also looking for guys like this?

You mean besides this guy?

I doubt they've ever been looking for parents talking about bathroom usage on social media

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3177022...

We've discussed this extensively on the board.

Or that "international terrorism" was taken off the list of things they were looking for?

Nice try at a sleight of hand. I didn't allege that.


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You mean besides this guy?

That's not evidence that their review of social media didn't include looking for guys like this.

We've discussed this extensively on the board.

The article only notes that the DOJ responded to parents that engaged in harassment and violent threats against school board members. Nothing about reviewing social media about bathroom usage.

Nice try at a sleight of hand. I didn't allege that.

Then what change are you alleging happened with respect to monitoring of social media between when the Trump administration was in charge and now? If they haven't removed "international terrorism" from the list of things they're looking at, what's changed?
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That's not evidence that their review of social media didn't include looking for guys like this.

So you're saying it's not that they're not looking, just that they suck at it?

The article only notes that the DOJ responded to parents that engaged in harassment and violent threats against school board members. Nothing about reviewing social media about bathroom usage.

I posted that to remind you of the uproar over Garland weaponizing the DOJ via his infamous memo. The FBI used the terrorism playbook against those parents, which means they were definitely searching social media.

Then what change are you alleging happen

I'm saying:

-Soon adults will be back in charge who will provide much better leadership for the FBI and other agencies.
-January 20th can't get here fast enough.

No more nose rings and statements of "this isn't terrorism" (when it's beyond obvious that it is) either.



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So you're saying it's not that they're not looking, just that they suck at it?

No more so than the fact that crime exists means that all law enforcement sucks at their job. Law enforcement wasn't able to prevent the Charlottesville driver, either - that doesn't mean that the Trump Administration sucked at law enforcement.

I posted that to remind you of the uproar over Garland weaponizing the DOJ via his infamous memo. The FBI used the terrorism playbook against those parents, which means they were definitely searching social media.

Any evidence of that? Garland's memo was that parents threatening local government members could constitute a crime - that does not mean that the FBI was searching their social media for bathroom content.

-Soon adults will be back in charge who will provide much better leadership for the FBI and other agencies.

What action from leadership do you think was lacking that led to this specific incident? Is there a particular policy that you think existed under the Trump Administration that does not exist today that would have been relevant?
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Law enforcement wasn't able to prevent the Charlottesville driver, either

Did that guy publicly declare himself a terrorist on Facebook also?

Any evidence of that? Garland's memo was that parents threatening local government members could constitute a crime - that does not mean that the FBI was searching their social media for bathroom content.

We've discussed this. Garland's memo was in response to the famous school board letter which demanded he treat parents as terrorists. Garland obliged.

What action from leadership do you think was lacking that led to this specific incident?

I'm looking forward to general upgrades in the basics from the government, things like expecting them to not gaslight the public among other things.
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We've discussed this. Garland's memo was in response to the famous school board letter which demanded he treat parents as terrorists. Garland obliged.

Not that he treat all parents as potentially violating federal law. Just ones that harassed or threatened government officials. That doesn't mean - or even make it likely - that the FBI was out scanning all social media for parents talking about bathroom issues.

I'm looking forward to general upgrades in the basics from the government, things like expecting them to not gaslight the public among other things.

But nothing specific to how law enforcement policies that are germane to this case would be changed?
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Not that he treat all parents as potentially violating federal law. Just ones that harassed or threatened government officials. That doesn't mean - or even make it likely - that the FBI was out scanning all social media for parents talking about bathroom issues.

Uh, huh. Why is that not a matter for local law enforcement? Oh, right, the letter thing again claiming they were domestic terrorists. How about the guy whose daughter was assaulted by the trans kid? They ran him through the wringer for merely complaining about it to supposedly-accountable-to-the-public officials.

But nothing specific to how law enforcement policies that are germane to this case would be changed?

How about this: the FBI ran out there and immediately said "THIS WASN'T TERRORISM" even though everybody knew he had an ISIS flag, had IEDs and drove through a crowd.

By my count I've answered 11 of your questions. Your turn:

Would you make any changes to the leadership of the FBI, the DOJ or any of the organs of national security or would you have them continue on the same path they're on now?
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what's changed?
Thanks for the evenings entertainment! In answer to this question, what has changed is what the conservative media reports. The world is pretty much the same, but the perceptions of those consuming conservative media have obviously changed quite a bit. I suspect they will change again fairly soon:-)
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They're already doing that. Have been for years.
But instead of looking for "COVID deniers", Trump supporters and parents wondering who us using their daughters' bathrooms at the local high school they should have been looking for guys like this.


You walked right past Homelands analysis because you didn't like what it said. It said, take the L Dope - and then explained how the local vs foreign was 3 or 4 to 1 actual, and that they'd busted fifteen local attempts. That makes a 19 to 1 ratio. And this is from memory, if you aren't going to read...
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How about this: the FBI ran out there and immediately said "THIS WASN'T TERRORISM" even though everybody knew he had an ISIS flag, had IEDs and drove through a crowd.

Yes - there was one lower-ranking FBI spokesperson who got in front of the issue and stated it wasn't terrorism, which was reversed within less than a day as more information came in. Not any institutional effort to classify this as something other than a terrorist institution as a matter of classification.

Would you make any changes to the leadership of the FBI, the DOJ or any of the organs of national security or would you have them continue on the same path they're on now?

Relevant to this incident? Not at this time. We don't have nearly enough information to conclude whether this was a failure to execute directives of leader, a failure in the setting of those directives, or neither and just an instance where even the right policies properly executed to the limits of available resources will still not prevent every catastrophe.

What we know right now is that this guy pledged allegiance to ISIS in videos posted online hours before the attack. From media reports, it looks like only about two hours - 1:39 a.m. when the first video went up. It is exceptionally unlikely that under any system of surveillance of social media that the American people would ever find acceptable that this would result in a law enforcement intervention in that short of a time period. We don't yet know (or at least, I haven't yet seen) whether there were older indications that would have/should have triggered a law enforcement intervention.
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Relevant to this incident?

I'm not asking relative to this incident. I'm talking about the entire shebang.

What we know right now is that this guy pledged allegiance to ISIS in videos posted online hours before the attack.

IIRC he pledged to ISIS in June.
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I'm not asking relative to this incident. I'm talking about the entire shebang.

Generally speaking? I'm fairly satisfied with the overall direction and administration of the FBI and law enforcement agencies of the US - just as I was during the Trump administration. There might be issues and specific choices that I might disagree with - perhaps even strongly - but that's going to always be true of any agency at any time. I think on the whole those agencies have been more or less competently run.

IIRC he pledged to ISIS in June.

That's what he said in his videos, but the videos admitting that pledge weren't posted until less than two hours before the attack. There's no plausible way that could have led to law enforcement preventing the attack - it's just too short a time period.
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I'm fairly satisfied with the overall direction and administration of the FBI and law enforcement agencies of the US - just as I was during the Trump administration.

Not surprising, given it's being run by and large by the same people.

I think on the whole those agencies have been more or less competently run.

We can agree to disagree here. Sending 18 agents down to investigate a "noose" at a NASCAR pit might have been one of the sillier things they've done.

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Dope: -Soon adults will be back in charge who will provide much better leadership for the FBI and other agencies.

Oh, the absurdity!

You are so deluded.

We will have a crime boss in the White House and his cronies in charge of LE and intelligence. And you think you will have 'adults' in charge.

Ludicrous.
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Dope: I'm looking forward to general upgrades in the basics from the government, things like expecting them to not gaslight the public among other things.


This idiotic statement actually made me laugh out loud.

No gaslighting from Trump, oh no, not from that straight shooter who lies every time he opens his mouth.
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We can agree to disagree here. Sending 18 agents down to investigate a "noose" at a NASCAR pit might have been one of the sillier things they've done.

Every administration has some iconoclastic categories of crimes and potential crimes that they're going to take intensely seriously based on their priorities, and err on the side of caution in investigating and resources - even if it ends up looking "silly" in retrospect. That's going to be the case no matter who's in charge, or what their policies are - they'll do something that partisans who oppose that administration will ridicule and disparage.

There have been and always will be things like that I'll disagree with in various administrations - but those won't be anything that lead me to believe that a complete teardown is necessary.
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but those won't be anything that lead me to believe that a complete teardown is necessary.

The school board thing, going after people who pray at abortion clinics and the overreaction to J6 were my Rubicons for the FBI. COVID was the Rubicon for the partnership with Big Tech.

The Constitution either means something or it's every man for himself. Since I choose door #1 I'd rather have people running the agencies who understand what their oaths are, who they're to and what they mean. Transparency and a default posture of respecting Constitutional rights are a core of that.



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Sending 18 agents down to investigate a "noose" at a NASCAR pit might have been one of the sillier things they've done. - Dope

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Another public outcry concerns what many view as an unnecessarily aggressive show of force. Such as sending giant teams of FBI agents armed with automatic weapons and dressed in tactical gear to arrest dangerous public enemies like Roger Stone.

Or Mark Houck, his wife and seven children and father of seven whose home was swarmed with 15 vehicles of FBI agents to arrest the dangerous pastor who had protested outside an abortion clinic. Houck faced 11 years in prison for allegedly touching a planned parenthood employee, but thankfully was acquitted.


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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Some real perpspective
Date: 01/02/2025 9:50 PM
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Another public outcry concerns what many view as an unnecessarily aggressive show of force. Such as sending giant teams of FBI agents armed with automatic weapons and dressed in tactical gear to arrest dangerous public enemies like Roger Stone.


Is that limited to well-to-do white boys?


Or Mark Houck, his wife and seven children and father of seven whose home was swarmed with 15 vehicles of FBI agents to arrest the dangerous pastor who had protested outside an abortion clinic. Houck faced 11 years in prison for allegedly touching a planned parenthood employee, but thankfully was acquitted.


More well-to-do white boys.

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Date: 01/03/2025 1:11 AM
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Another public outcry concerns what many view as an unnecessarily aggressive show of force. Such as sending giant teams of FBI agents armed with automatic weapons and dressed in tactical gear to arrest dangerous public enemies like Roger Stone.

Or Mark Houck, his wife and seven children and father of seven whose home was swarmed with 15 vehicles of FBI agents to arrest the dangerous pastor who had protested outside an abortion clinic. Houck faced 11 years in prison for allegedly touching a planned parenthood employee, but thankfully was acquitted.


Thank you - the Houk case was the other one that I had forgotten. The FBI is beyond a politicized clown show at the moment. Kash Patel has his work cut out for him.
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I find this thread fascinating.

On the one hand, the FBI is out of control and should be torn down because they surveiled American citizens based on threat assessments, many of them Right Wing organizations, but some Left, and many foreign…but…

They should have stopped the New Orleans terror driver based on his social media feed, which he put up just two hours before his rampage, so apparently the FBI should be watching Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and all other social media at all times and be prepared to put citizens in preventive detention if they don’t like what they read.

Seems just a trifle contradictory, doesn’t it?
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