Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy❤
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Board, or the right-wing word salad bored?
Asking for a friend.
Thanks so much.
If it's the Atheist Board, I'll post this...
'All thinking men are atheists.' ― Ernest Hemingway,
If it's the right-wing word salad bored, I'll post this...
Judge in Trump Rape Defamation Case Allows 'Access Hollywood' Tape as Evidence
The judge wrote, 'Ms. Carroll offers the evidence to show that Mr. Trump has a propensity for such behavior.'
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/10/judge-in-trump-rap...
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The judge wrote, 'Ms. Carroll offers the evidence to show that Mr. Trump has a propensity for such behavior.'
Not taking a side either way, but I find it weird that sometimes judges will allow prior acts in, and other times rule them out as prejudicial.
I watch those murder shows as are common on ID, 48 Hours, HLN and other channels. The number of times the prosecutors can't introduce evidence that the guy has been convicted four times before for rape, while on trial for another rape, astounds me.
Yes, I understand that he's only on trial for the one - and that telling jurors 'he's done this a bunch of times' will jaundice their view, but then why is it OK in other cases like this?
[Anyone who knows me knows I am not trying to build a defense for the orange buffoon, I just can't figure out why it's sometimes OK and sometimes not.]
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There's different atheists....
1.It's perfectly ok not to believe in some divine power and one can live by their own moral code and ethos - and that is absolutely perfectly fine.
2.)I'm an Atheist because I love flashing my badge, and I use it to bash Christianity 95% of the time, and other religions 5% of the time, only if forced to in a tacit way.I'll whine about Right Wing posts, but not Left Wing posts that had equally nothing to do with Atheism. I'm standing outside the drugstore asking people to accept nobody as their lord and personal savior. I'm a hypocrite who is lost and needs to belong to a gang, so I chose this one. I got me a degree, a 401K, I love my earnings per share and tax deferrals but I like to crow on social media about fairness even though I partake in benefits that others can't afford to or are unable to. Raise gas price I'm gonna castigate the CEOs, but I'll never question the grandiose resort style college campuses, and all the professors and faculty and admins making the coin while churning out debt on students.
While we're on the subject.....
I believe in some sort of supreme. Could be a. deity Could be Providence. Could be a coke-can. I really have no clue what this supreme is, and I have seen no proof. I am suspicious at best, and have disdain at worse - for all organized religions. I feel Man has used ALL religions for simple things: To control behavior - sometimes for good reasons be it finances, family planning, social structure. To have dominion over women, sexually and otherwise. To control the masses - -sometimes just because the Powerful felt like it, other times to benefit the powerful economically and politically. This is not against the respective flocks - SOME, I repeat SOME whom try to live their faith. This is to the leaders, the structures, the organizations - who are scraggly mortals just like me, yet somehow they have a Red Phone to God. No, I dont buy it. Once they live their faith - I'm willing to listen.
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Board, or the right-wing word salad bored?
Asking for a friend.
Thanks so much.
On the original 'official' atheist board at the Fool there was lots of no-god, anti-god, no church talk when it first launched. After a while most everything that could be said had been said, except for the occasional, if regular, eruptions thanks to some new law some idiot was trying pass in Tennessee or something. I(In that way it was like the Berkshire board; calculating IV for the 832nd time led to discussions of other, sometimes OT things.)
Over time the board devolved into a 'this is where atheists can converse about anything without fear (slang, not actual 'fear') of being interrupted or hectored by the Jesus committee. In that way there were conversations about the origin of the universe, morality of different countries, the beginnings of civilization and such, and occasionally a good recipe that someone found.
The board had participants from the left and the right, and even the political discussions were held with less vituperation than existed on Political Asylum. In that way it was a nice little asylum of its own.
I hope this board lives up to it.
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<<Yes, I understand that he's only on trial for the one - and that telling jurors 'he's done this a bunch of times' will jaundice their view, but then why is it OK in other cases like this?>>
Hey Goofy, I think it's because it is a civil case, in a criminal case it probably wouldn't be admissible. (Perhaps Albaby, our board legal expert could offer more insight!)
Criminal law and civil law differ with respect to how cases are initiated (who may bring charges or file suit),
how cases are decided (by a judge or a jury), what kinds of punishment or penalty may be imposed, what standards of proof must be met,
and what legal protections may be available to the defendant.
In civil cases, defendants are not entitled to the same legal protections as are the criminally accused.
https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-the-diffe...All The Best!
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I agree with Gh. It's a board for atheists to discuss *whatever*. Left, right, center...doesn't matter. We also had a few theists on the board, and they were quite welcome as long as they didn't try to "save" us. At least two theists I'm aware of did try that...one ended up an atheist, and the other (last I knew) was having a crisis of faith by the time he disappeared. They both tried to come in with reason, and when presented with opposing reason they realized their reasoning was faulty. It was all quite civil, as I recall. Demanding in terms of logic and evidence, but civil.
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"The Jesus Committee"
Time to get my old username - from the old TMF DAYS. When the militant Christophobes ONLY disparaged that faith...but not a peep on others - it was fun copying their comment verbatim, but taking out the Christ reference, and making it out to mock Islam and post in on a social media area which if for French Muslims. Man, it used to cause "feelings".
Hopefully I saved it. Was very long ago. It motivates people - reminds them not to fall for integration crap.
Now back to real Atheism - not "I claim Atheist cause I'm the typical 401K'er who loves bashing Christianity only".........I for one believe most organized religions do more bad than good for the human race and I feel that non believers lead as good a life as the believers....and many times, the non believer is far ahead on that score.
Attack and rec away, no worries.
(LOL - discussing no god no church. Yeah, there's a daily hobby.....bunch of rainbow-toting-non-diverse-10%ers talking in their version of tongues)
Bill Maher at least is consistent. Doesn't just go after one faith and many times, calls one out when events dictate.
Anyhow, gotta go post "The M******* committee" now.
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The US has to be most concerned about Xianity. They are by far dominant, and do by far more damage. I won't speak for the OP, but for me all religion is comparably ridiculous. I'll slam Islam just as fast as Xianity, but Islam really isn't much of a threat in the US. Just not enough foot soldiers, not enough influence. Congress is overrun with xians, and they make policy. THAT is a threat. There are only a handful of muslims there, and they have very little influence or power.
Judaism, xianity, and islam are -at their core- worshiping the same deity. There is no reason to believe in that deity, so they are varying degrees of ridiculous. And if you want to attack hinduism, or others, I'm game. Confidence is something you can't demonstrate is ill-advised, and making important decisions based on that is folly. But hindus aren't powerful enough to threaten us either. Our primary problem is xians, and especially the fundies who think that freedom of religion only applies to them.
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When the militant Christophobes ONLY disparaged that faith...but not a peep on others - it was fun copying their comment verbatim
As expected from you, that's a "misinformation". ("misinformation"... the new kinder, gentler, sano)
Many, if not most, TMF AFrs were equal opportunity bashers of skydaddy beliefs.
Half my genes came from bible thumpers. The other half have menorahs.
Fie on all of it. And if there's Quran quirks in the woodpile, they can bundle in Mitt's magic panties and sink it all in the Great Salt lake weighted down with magic seeing stones.
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Many, if not most, TMF AFrs were equal opportunity bashers of skydaddy beliefs.
Half my genes came from bible thumpers. The other half have menorahs.
Fie on all of it. And if there's Quran quirks in the woodpile, they can bundle in Mitt's magic panties and sink it all in the Great Salt lake weighted down with magic seeing ston
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Cool. So - even in the infancy of the board, the mockery or negative view of Christianity in terms of posts - is equal to Islam. I wouldn't have guessed that.
Also, good tip: In the proper forum of a certain persuasion, we'll talk about"Bible Quirks" and "Mohammed's Panties".
This one may not go over too well.... brb. (You should see the replies to the last one I copied from here...and altered a bit - whew!)
In terms of organized religions - I have more than a suspicion that the leaders of, and loudest preachers of it..........wouldn't give up their lifelong relationship histories AND last week's internet searches to save their own lives :)
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Given the US where most of us reside is about 70% Christian, and less than 1% Muslim the posting bias seems reasonable.
Alan
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Given the US where most of us reside is about 70% Christian, and less than 1% Muslim the posting bias seems reasonable.
Yup. If a hare krishna dude was sitting on the plank over the dunk tank, I'd pony up for 3 softballs to see if he floats.
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Cool. So - even in the infancy of the board, the mockery or negative view of Christianity in terms of posts - is equal to Islam. I wouldn't have guessed that.
Why wouldn't you have guessed that? Do you think atheists only don't believe in the Christian god, but are OK with the one from Mohammed? (PS: They are the same one) Or maybe you think we believe in Thor and Ra?
Christianity shows up here more often simply because we interact mostly with Christians. The Jewish people in Tennessee, all 14 of them, aren't trying to get laws passed to put the Torah in public schools. And the followers of Thor and Ra haven't made themselves known at all. At least yet.
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The Jewish people in Tennessee, all 14 of them,
Make that 18. My nephew's family recently got transferred to Nashville
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No worries, it's good material. Copying it, replacing christian references with Islam references, posting them on forums for Muslim communities in France.
I won't complain more.
Thanks and keep em coming.
"Insight"fun stuff.
(Militant Atheism: Solely about identity and Christophobia. Nothing else. No different than the "don't take my gun away" people who really don't want a gun to begin with. ).
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Board, or the right-wing word salad bored?
If it's the Atheist Board, I'll post this...
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." ~James Madison
If it's the right-wing word salad bored, I'll post this...
The debt ceiling increased three times under Trump.
There was no holding the economy hostage. There was no drama at all. Hmmm...
Have a great day all!
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It's a board for Militant Atheists - brethren of the Born Again Christians with the cross proudly displayed on low cut dresses.
It's a board they wish was not open - and rather - simply a silo and echo chamber for intolerance and only one point of view.
People who join restricted clubs - just hate it when them other people are allowed in.
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People who join restricted clubs - just hate it when them other people are allowed in. - wilton
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"I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member." - Groucho Marx
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Board, or the right-wing conspiracy theory, word salad bored?
If it's the Atheist Board, I'll post this...
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." ~Voltaire
If it's the right-wing conspiracy theory, word salad bored, I'll post this...
Breaking: Republican serial liar George Santos has just been arrested by federal authorities
and is being charged with 13 criminal counts including wire fraud, money laundering, and lying to Congress.
Oh but her emails...
Have a great day all!
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If it's the right-wing conspiracy theory, word salad bored, I'll post this...
Breaking: Republican serial liar George Santos has just been arrested by federal authorities
and is being charged with 13 criminal counts including wire fraud, money laundering, and lying to Congress. - vsg
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Good. George Santos brought this on himself and is being held accountable. BTW, I saw this reported on Fox news
earlier this morning.
And as along as we are talking breaking news, did you see the Comer press conference just completed concerning foreign government payments to the Biden family? Fox covered the entire presser, so most here probably missed it.
More breaking news, live drone footage of massive overrun of the Southern Border, again you may not have seen it if you don't watch Fox. I know, Mayorkas assures us the border is secure and you can't believe your own eyes because Fox news staged the drone footage on a giant sound stage using 10,000 extras. In case you want to see more faux news, tune in to Fox tomorrow to see even bigger crowds swarming the secure border as Title 42 expires.
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I know, Mayorkas assures us the border is secure
I've seen recent news interviews with Mayorkas in which he expresses great concern about the greatly increased numbers that are expected to flood the border and the consequences they are trying to avoid. He's certainly not oblivious. And clearly not trying to present a fake rosy picture of the situation.
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bighairymike: More breaking news, live drone footage of massive overrun of the Southern Border, again you may not have seen it if you don't watch Fox ... Mayorkas assures us the border is secure and you can't believe your own eyes...
Actually, Mayorkas warned that the days and weeks ahead have the "potential to be very difficult."
Biden said that the southern border with Mexico would be "chaotic for a while" as pandemic-era restrictions expire.
Maybe you should watch something other than Fox.
Just sayin'.
BTW, what have congressional republicans in the House proposed to address the border after retaking the majority?
Oh, nothing.
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Buffalo Springfield:
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
It's time we stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look, what's going down?
What a field day for the heat (Ooh ooh ooh)
A thousand people in the street (Ooh ooh ooh)
Singing songs and they carrying signs (Ooh ooh ooh)
Mostly say, "Hooray for our side" (Ooh ooh ooh)
It's time we stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look, what's going down?
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away
There is a possibility of conversing and considering opposing viewpoints. But when one side insists on citing poor sources, and refuses to listen to any correction of those sources (e.g. Fox, Newsmax, others), it's difficult to discuss anything. Not everyone does that, but a lot do. If you've never said "huh, I guess I was wrong", you may be part of the problem. I know I have said it (e.g. I was against Obamacare in the beginning).
"Hooray for our side" gets us nowhere. Many "news" services just make it worse, playing off of the fear and paranoia that Springfield was talking about.
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There is a possibility of conversing and considering opposing viewpoints. But when one side insists on citing poor sources, and refuses to listen to any correction of those sources (e.g. Fox, Newsmax, others), it's difficult to discuss anything.
LOL!!!!!
Poor sources?????
Do you realize you listed conservative, right leaning sources ONLY, shutting off any possibility of conversing and considering opposite viewpoints?
Biden, the left wing Masters and MSM do not report on anything that will go against the grain of the White House. Instead the Biden puppets are spoon fed nonsense, lies or non reporting of actual news that would make Biden look bad.
Do any of you lefties actually know what is happening with Biden's border crisis except to moan and groan aliens are being sent to sanctuary cities?
The superiority complex of liberals and Biden puppets makes me laugh.
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Biden, the left wing Masters and MSM do not report on anything that will go against the grain of the White House. Instead the Biden puppets are spoon fed nonsense, lies or non reporting of actual news that would make Biden look bad. - LM
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Yep, local news last night (NBC affiliate, liberal slant) had story about how the massive swarm that was expected a the border had not materialized. Video of lines with on;y a few hundred in them waiting to be processed to illustrate the story. Conclusion, mean old republicans once again over blowing the situation on order mask the Biden Admin doing a great job.
This morning on Fox, there was the rest of the story. Seems that US and Mexican officials are coordinating. The Mexicans mostly keep the swarm on the their side of the border. Then when US Border patrol is almost finished with a batch, they call their Mexican accomplices to send over another group of 150.
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There are left-wing radical sources, I'm sure. Few (if any) have the prominence of right-wing sources (e.g. Fox is the biggest in the business, last I knew). I don't pay attention to those, so couldn't really name them. But I am inundated with cites from unreliable sources on the right, so I know some of them (because, in some cases, I had to look them up because there were so out-there that I hadn't even heard of them).
I live in a border state, so I'm aware. Fox (and others) is making it a huge deal, but we are mostly going about our business in Arizona. Meanwhile, folks in Florida (NOT a border state) are in a tizzy...whipped-up by Fox and Newsmax and others.
Really, I can't believe anyone watches Fox anymore after the Dominion thing. Their internal memos, detailed in the court filings, clearly indicate that they weren't interested in presenting factual news. They were interested in ratings, and telling people what they wanted to hear regardless of the accuracy of those statements. That is not the function of a news organization. If you want accurate information, don't watch Fox. That is clear from the court filings.
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Seems that US and Mexican officials are coordinating.
I was gone for a while. Catching up, I noted someone else posted about that a few weeks ago. The gist was that Trump didn't make Mexico pay for the wall (as he promised), but Biden did work with Mexican authorities to actually do something helpful.
Also, not mentioned, is the expanded use of H1-A visas (migrant visas...they really do exist, but aren't perfect, and until recently weren't utilized much because it was easier just to scoot across the border). IMO, the H1-A is a step in the right direction. Fix the bugs (e.g. abuse is possible because the agro-business can threaten to fire you, and if you have no job the visa is invalid and you get deported), and it would be a workable system.
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This morning on Fox, there was the rest of the story. Seems that US and Mexican officials are coordinating. The Mexicans mostly keep the swarm on the their side of the border. Then when US Border patrol is almost finished with a batch, they call their Mexican accomplices to send over another group of 150.
So what's the problem? It's not the armageddon Faux had predicted to cause it's kult to chant "firing lines now,"
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The Mexicans mostly keep the swarm on the their side of the border.
Didn't the Nazis use othering and dehumanizing language like this when speaking of the Jews? Why do you all continue to engage with fascists?
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Didn't the Nazis use othering and dehumanizing language like this when speaking of the Jews? Why do you all continue to engage with fascists?
The swarm is not a derogative reference. "The band was escorted through the swarm at the stage door. We was amazed as girls (and boys) swarmed the departing limo.
Yeah, no. Not dehumanizing unless one places a dehumanizing adjective in front of the word.
The swarm of humanity in Times square..... etc
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I beg to differ. It is intended, in the context of talking about economic and political migrants desperately seeking refuge in the US, to dehumanize fellow human beings as the equivalent of a plague of locusts, a destructive force threatening 'our' land. It is hateful, fascistic language and we need to call it out as such.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/suella-braver...
