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Author: PucksFool 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/13/25 8:21 PM
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Trump is trying to pardon a Colorado woman for the state conviction of vote tampering.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/13/us/politics/tru...

President Trump’s pledge to pardon Tina Peters, a former Colorado county clerk convicted of tampering with voting machines, touched off a new battle on Friday over the fate of perhaps the last high-profile 2020 election denier still behind bars.

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“There’s no legal merit,” Attorney General Phil Weiser of Colorado, a Democrat, said in an interview on Friday.

Ms. Peters, the former clerk in conservative-leaning Mesa County, a ranching and oil-and-gas region on the western edge of the state, was sentenced to nine years in prison last year after being found guilty of interfering with voting machines in an effort to prove falsehoods that they had been used to rig the 2020 election against Mr. Trump.

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Author: g0177325   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 7:15 AM
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Yeah, another flaw in our constitution: there's nothing to stop a corrupt president from pardoning the unworthy.

The pardon power should have been invested in Congress.
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Author: PucksFool 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 8:17 AM
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It is another example of the framers of the Constitution being ordinary humans not the divinely inspired sages that the Christian nationalists would have us believe. They knew that the corrupt and contemptible would seek power. Each of them could probably name a few, and some of them they would name were likely among the people they were working with on forming a new government. What they didn't envision was that the white male voters would actually put someone like Trump in office. Given how difficult it is to amend the Constitution, it is unlikely that I will ever live to see the pardon power flaw corrected, but Trump could inspire many changes if he continues to rile up the electorate against him and those who enable him. I would love to see Trump remembered as the President who changed the face of American politics but not in the way he wants.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 8:52 AM
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Yeah, another flaw in our constitution: there's nothing to stop a corrupt president from pardoning the unworthy.


But in this Colorado case there is something to stop Mr. Corruption: it's a state case where he does not have pardon power.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 8:56 AM
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I would love to see Trump remembered as the President who changed the face of American politics but not in the way he wants.

The thing about Trump (and it has been obvious all his worthless life) is that he has no deeply held beliefs, religious, political or otherwise. He's a chameleon shape shifter always looking for an angle. And, boy, did he find the ultimate angle in gaining the presidency. The grifters dream come true.

If Trump has anything like deeply held beliefs it would be his racism and misogyny. Otherwise all is transactional.
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 8:59 AM
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PucksFool,

The problem is you folks on the Left don't actually want to fix anything.

You want to destroy it.

You're frustrated because Trump is the first Republican since maybe Reagan who is trying to stop you from headlong destruction.

And Trump is doing it fully within the existing system, all according to the Rule of Law.

I've said it before and will say it again, now: You guys are the ones who don't like the Rule of Law.

You don't like the U.S. Constitution. You don't like the Supreme Court. You don't like Congress. You don't like the President.

Therefore, because you don't like them, in your befuddled minds, they are "illegitimate."

Fetterman, apparently the only not-insane Democrat left, said on a Sunday show that Congress should pass a one year extension of the enhanced ACA subsidies which would allow time to hammer out a real fix for the ACA and health care.

That makes perfect sense.

But the Democrats don't want sensible solutions.

They want failure, they want destruction, all so they can run against Trump and the Republicans in 2026.

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Author: g0177325   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 10:13 AM
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But in this Colorado case there is something to stop Mr. Corruption: it's a state case where he does not have pardon power.

I wouldn't want to bet against Trump's DOJ not being able to frame the issue in a manner that would "justify" the SCROTUS* from further expanding the "unitary executive" power of their most favorite very special boy.

* - Supreme Court Republicans Of The U.S.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 10:24 AM
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it's a state case where he does not have pardon power.

Yes, but he can still flood the zone. :) It's exhausting to have him as President.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 10:30 AM
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I wouldn't want to bet against Trump's DOJ not being able to frame the issue in a manner that would "justify" the SCROTUS* from further expanding the "unitary executive" power of their most favorite very special boy.


Sad to say, you might be right.
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 1:46 PM
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The problem is you folks on the Left don't actually want to fix anything. You want to destroy it. ~oldmarco000

Yes Trump fixes things!
Examples:
measles = fixed!
the national debt = fixed!
all wars = fixed!
ACA = fixed!
Argentia = fixed!
the "made up" Epstein list = fixed!
DOGE balanced the budget as promised = fixed!
grocery prices down, zero inflation = fixed
Americas economy now the hottest in the world = fixed!
Obama not collecting fees from Obamacare anymore = fixed!
no president ever sold worthless #Trump scam coins to Americans = fixed!
welfare for farmers = fixed!
strange bruises on hands = fixed with makeup from Sephora!
"every Venezuelan boat that we knock out saves 25,000 American lives." ~Trump = fixed!
built border wall = fixed! (paid for by Mexico!)
Ghislane Maxwell moved to country club like facility = fixed!
a sleepy president who can't stay awake for meetings = fixed err well...
immigrants eating the dogs = fixed!
the gulf of Mexico = fixed!
Emoluments Clause = fixed!
woke font = fixed!
America WAS the shining city on the hill = fixed!



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Author: Umm 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 5:40 PM
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"The problem is you folks on the Left don't actually want to fix anything." - Marco the Clown

Marco,

You couldn't accurately describe a democratic policy position if someone was holding a gun to your head.

Go ahead, no gun to your head. Try and accurately describe a democratic policy position.

We all want a good laugh. Don't worry. You will have company. We have all been laughing at Dumbass Dope for years because he repeatedly has been unable to describe his opponent's positions even after they are clearly described to him. He needs someone else to help him share the class clown duties.

I bet you cannot do it. In fact, I would bet a lot of money that you could not do it.

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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/14/25 6:36 PM
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I bet you cannot do it. In fact, I would bet a lot of money that you could not do it.

In a pinch, if money was on the line, he would do google search. : ) Otherwise...no way.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/15/25 12:01 PM
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We all want a good laugh.

Umm, I have a good laugh every time I read one of your posts.

You curse, bad mouth, insult posters you reply to.
Yep, you do all that but NEVER contribute any sane pro or con
information or rebuttal to the subject being discussed.

Your problem probably is because you are too stupid to add
intellegent pro or con information and jealous of the
poster because of his superior intelligence compared to yours.
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/15/25 12:13 PM
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Lurker Mom,

Leftists literally do not know how to think. It's all emotion driven by psyops on social media and the MSM.

They literally post slanted prompts to get A.I. responses which caterr to their biases, then cut and paste them instead of thinking for themselves.

The Reiner murder is such a perfect example. Reiner is a great man tragically lost.

As if Reiner had nothing at all to do with how his son was raised and turned out to be a patricidal and matricidal murderer.

One of the most privileged people in the world. Virtually infinite financial resources to get his son whatever help the son needed. He could even have afforded lawyers to get the son involuntarily committed and gotten a guardianship.

Was the son totally normal for his whole life and then yesterday became a murderer?

I'll be there is a very long history of abnormal and dysfunctional behavior which the MSM and the left will bury.

And parental neglect no doubt

Maybe if Mr. Reiner had spent more time and effort and money taking care of his son and less yelling the whole world that anyone who disagrees with him is an whole who doesn't deserve to live, he's still be alive and his son wouldnt be a murderer

The sons actions appear to be a deification and manifestation of Reiner's own hatred of his political adversaries amplified by psychosis

Like father like son. Two psychos.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/15/25 4:35 PM
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I'll be there is a very long history of abnormal and dysfunctional behavior which the MSM and the left will bury.

No, I've read it already so it's out there and the son got all available treatment. I can guess how you'll approach it, but I'm not interested.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/15/25 5:48 PM
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'll be[sic] there is a very long history of abnormal and dysfunctional behavior which the MSM and the left will bury.

No you're thinking of FOX 'news' who never wants to criticize Dear Leader.

You are in a cult.
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/15/25 6:25 PM
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You're burying it ges, you see?

You deflected from Rob Reiner and Nick Reiner onto Trump.

That's exactly what I'm talking about.

Nick Reiner murdered his father because his father was an unrestrained hater.

The son followed in the footsteps of his father, but focused all his anger and hatred on his father.

How did the son learn to express his anger and rage in such an uncontrolled manner?

Like father, like son.
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Author: MisterFungi   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/16/25 10:15 AM
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...here is a very long history of abnormal and dysfunctional behavior which the MSM and the left will bury.

As noted previously, I don't see messages from the graylings. But re this "comment", I note that Reiner and his some MADE A DOCUMENTARY FILM about the son's struggles.
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Author: MisterFungi   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/16/25 11:06 AM
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Correction: the film wasn’t a documentary but rather a drama based on the son’s struggles and made in collaboration with him. In this regard, the Wall Street Journal has a long story today about how Nick Reiner’s struggles have “long been under a spotlight.”
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump making noise about pardon power
Date: 12/16/25 1:03 PM
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Yes, and Mr. Reiner's "documentary" was simply another way of exploiting his son.

All for the father's own narcissistic glory.

"Look what a great parent I am. It's not my fault my son is so effed up."

Evidently, Nick Reiner disagreed with his father's narrative of sainthood.

Strenuously disagreed.
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