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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Border Apprehensions Lowest Level In Half Century
Date: 02/04/26 3:02 PM
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Sure - because, again, that's not the only variable. Most people in the jail haven't been convicted, may not even have been formally charged - and even those that are, and may even be charged for serious crimes, will have their charges dropped.

The people that have ICE detainers on them have effectively criminal warrants out on them. These sanctuary laws basically say Pffft to that.

This isn't about "emotional decisions."

Yes it is. You're using a lot of handwaving here to basically explain why your feelings around your value judgements effectively override the law of the land.

Instead of doing the heavy lifting to support policy that's driven from the federal level sanctuary outfits choose to effectively override it.

Proportionality and justice are serious moral and ethical concerns with any system that involves the use of force by the state. It underlies all criminal justice systems and many civil enforcement processes as well. It is important that whatever processes you have do not punish the person who has shared a Netflix password or stolen cable or made unauthorized copies of the latest Taylor Swift album with the same severity as someone who commits a murder. That's not an "emotional decision," it's one of the (many) core competing interests at play.

This is great and all, but sanctuary outfits are releasing murderers like the guy I mentioned. There's no distinction being made at all - they just kick them out the door because F to the feds.

Most conservatives strongly prioritize order, security, and enforcement of rules over other interests. That's fine - different people have different ways of prioritizing things about the world. That doesn't mean that interests like "proportional fairness" and "avoiding harm to those who don't serve the harm" aren't important as well.

Great strawman, because no one's said they don't. Sanctuary cities don't have the authority to effectively override federal criminal warrants but here they are doing it every day.

We are a system based on laws. If you don't like a law, you can change. But blue places don't have the support for the policies they want so instead they play these games to get their way. The moral preening that goes along is the high-handed justification.
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