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I think they will get it eventually but i'm listening to an interview on CNBC - the dem is citing "health care"
No you dumbass. Don't say "health care"
Say "we want to prevent people's insurance bills from going up $600 a month soon"
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT. Your culture doesnt breed people who have a clue. You need to talk simple and real.
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Say "we want to prevent people's insurance bills from going up $600 a month soon"The problem is math.
Affordable Care Act premiums will rise 114% if enhanced subsidies expire, health policy researcher finds
About 22 million people receive enhanced subsidies.https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/30/aca-premiums-to-mo...The majority of people, who have insurance through their employer, or via Medicare, don't care about the minority that benefit from ACA "enhanced" subsidies, or Medicaid. The "supply side economics" sales pitch, for decades has been "let us take something away from someone you don't know, and maybe you will see a benefit".
Steve
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In a 50-50 country Steve.....
Millions of swing state voters are about to get a HUGE bill increase.
It matters big time. it's the most potent issues Democrats have.
But.....
I guess they love having their "democracy!" shredded because Trump made a big deal out of egg prices being up a few bucks.
But Dems don't realize how to use $1000's of real dollars for a vital need....to their advantage.
Yet.
Oh well. At least the healthy people can pay the tab via so many more unpaid emergency room visits coming up all over.
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I gotta believe that even Out of Touch White Liberals can realize this is a politically golden issue.
Ebola was.
Egg prices were.
Honestly - any Dem who goes on TV or Social media --and DOESN'T mention blunt numbers on health insurance prices should lose funding from the party. Really. Yes people - you need to win if you want to govern and when the opponent gives you instructions on how to beat him - you get your heads out of your bubble dwelling asses and do it.
I am convinced you don't want to beat MAGA - you meaning - the out of touch Left. You truly don't want to beat Trump and MAGA.
So easy....
"In the next month, you'll be getting a notice that your insurance bill is going up anywhere from $300-$1200 a month. That's real money. And Trump and your Republican Senator is making that happen"
"If you have insurance at work guess what? When young healthy people drop their ACA plan - it will cause your bill to go up next year when you have your yearly health insurance meeting an they tell you how far up the ass you'll be fucked"
I rarely am flummoxed with politics anymore but this one----a signature Dem issue-----and Obama Legacy policy that he spent so much capital on----- and it's there for the taking!
could this be the first time the Republicans prevail from a shut down? I just can't even believe it enough to predict it. This shutdown stuff has helped Dem every timeand now when they've got a golden issue...they might want to throw the match. '
AOC should be having a champagne toast right about now.
Health Bills going UP and Dems not jumping on it properly vis a vis messaging.
Yet if an egg costs more, or an illegal runs over a squirrel by accident.....Trump would ride it to a 4th term from his grave lol.
Wow. Ok i'm floored. Dems dont want to beat maga.
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"The majority of people, who have insurance through their employer, or via Medicare, don't care about the minority that benefit from ACA "enhanced" subsidies, or Medicaid."
Your statement has been proven correct, for my entire adult life. But maybe the message
should point out to the people who can't see past the end of their nose, that if people
have higher out of pocket costs for healthcare, then they have less money available to
spend on virtually everything else. The exact same message should be applied to tariffs.
I am seeing a lot of small and medium sized business owners crying about how bad they're
getting hurt. Same with farmers. The MAGA members of these groups will not be
persuaded away from Trump, even as their fiscal house gets torched, but MAGA is a
minority.
The Dem's kind of suck at messaging. They try to appeal to Americans with messages
that tout "the greater good". But Americans are kind of selfish pricks,lol.
The Dem's need to hammer out a message that points out all of the ways that
Trump and MAGA are enacting policies that take cash out of their pocket. That
will still not reach the MAGA base, but I don't give a rip about them, they are
deep in the cult. But the Independents might be reached.
As an aside, was in a golf outing last weekend. 4 man scramble, 3 team members
were Trump supporters, and all retired from the auto industry. I told them that
I've been tracking truck prices, as it's getting to be time to think about replacement.
But the truck's I'm interested, made by the company my friends worked for, have jumped
up in price by $12k from 2024 to 2025. I made sure to tell my friends that there
was no way in hell that I was paying that inflated price, and that I wasn't alone
in that thinking. Also made sure to tell them that this price jump was due to
Trump's tariffs ( whether actual tariff add-on, or corporate price gouging hidden
by having the excuse to blame it on tariffs ). 2 of these friends have kids working
in the auto industry, so even though they are retired, their kids are likely
going to feel the effects of Trump's policies.
I am done debating with MAGA, but sure am going to point out to the ones I know that
MAGA policies are hitting everybody's pocketbook, including theirs.
I was hoping that they'd bring up the $6k tax deduction that MAGA think is going
to be an actual $6K in their wallet, instead of an AGI deduction of $6k. But
none of them do their own taxes, so subject never came up,lol.
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Millions of swing state voters are about to get a HUGE bill increase.
The big money is from the tariffs. A US built Ford Escape, and a Mexican Bronco Sport used to be virtually the same price. Now, the Bronco Sport costs $1300 more. In a couple months, customers won't have a choice, because Ford is ending production of the Escape. But, as you say, the mob says "baaa"
Steve
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Your culture doesnt breed people who have a clue.
You and the right are consuming a LOT of Yuckert, eh???
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Dems dont want to beat maga.
Magats will die off fairly quickly. Natural selection, remember? Like 2020, only from a lot more preventable causes than *just* the Spankee Plague (AKA COVID).
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Affordable Care Act premiums will rise 114% if enhanced subsidies expire, health policy researcher finds
They may find this out when they do their taxes. The $ they pay monthly are then adjusted to what is deemed actual income, and any shortage is taken out of their refund. If they're used to a big refund, it may disappear and they may owe money. Around this time of year the health company does an audit (by law) and if they are due a refund a check is cut. Why the insurance company's don't put it back into the account directly isn't clear, because it's taken out of the account monthly. Some people get a rude awakening at tax time.
If they adjust the rates and start taking a larger amount out, let's hope they are told by email or mail first. Poor people don't need surprises when it comes to money.
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Affordable Care Act premiums will rise 114% if enhanced subsidies expire, health policy researcher finds
As noted before, the problem is math. The news last night said some 14M would be impacted. What is the population? 330M? So, less that 5% of the population is impacted, ie, "others". USians have been trained, for forty years, that it's OK to throw others under the bus. The 95% who are not impacted will say "so?"
Steve
