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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: mungofitch ✹✺🐝 SILVER
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if you do get a moment some time then it'd be interesting to see the associated scatterplot of two year forward real return vs the value measure.

Geek note:
In this sort of situation, I think it's important to reduce the noise resulting from the randomness of the valuation on the specific end date anniversary. So to calculate forward returns, I don't do (price two years from now)/(price today). Instead I do (average price 1.75 to 2.25 years from now)/(price today). It's amazing how much this helps your models: it still looks at the short term squiggles of price and valuation on purchase date which is what matters, but doesn't get thrown off by the quirks of a specific end day.

This is a scatter plot of ratio of price to my smoothed and scaled-up value line, over the last 20 years, daily figures. The forward two year returns are an annualized rate, after inflation.
http://www.stonewellfunds.com/PriceToTrendAndForwa...

With today's price of $713670 ($475.78 per B), today's smoothed line level is about $613570 and the ratio is about 1.163. Using that ratio, the formula fit from the graph suggests one might expect a forward two year return around -1.62%/year after inflation. The standard deviation of the ratio in the last 20 years has been 11.8% with mean (by construction) of 1.

Jim
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