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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/15/26 10:34 PM
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Seems Trump's campaign claim of being against foreign wars is no longer operative (Gomer Pyle voice "Surprise, Surprise, Surprise")

Mike Huckabee Claims Conservatives Aren’t Really MAGA if They Oppose Foreign Regime Change: ‘Posers’

“That’s a small minority of the people in the MAGA movement,” insisted Huckabee. “Because most of us who truly are the America First MAGA movement and have been since Donald Trump became president in 2016, I think what we say is, look, America First absolutely, but that doesn’t mean America only. We’re not isolationists. We live in a real world.”


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/mike-huckabee-...

The evening news reported that, in spite of God Trump the Perfect's assurances yesterday, a carrier group is headed toward the middle east.

Thinking strategically, the profitable move would be to let the current Iranian regime stand, so the sanctions will continue to constrain their oil exports, while God on Earth Trump uses the sanctions as an excuse to hijack every tanker of Iranian crude he can get his hands on.

Steve


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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/15/26 11:21 PM
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Earth Trump uses the sanctions as an excuse to hijack every tanker of Iranian crude he can get his hands on.

He’s already selling hijacked Venezuelan oil and squirreling the proceeds into a private Qatari bank account, so hijacking and selling Iranian oil would simply increase that amount going into his private coffers.

But things ain’t going well for him here in America. His storm troopers are not popular at all and are growing more unpopular every day. Republicans are grumbling and he cant rely on their unquestioning support like he used to be able to do.

He’s trying to ignite a war in the streets so he can invoke the Insurrection Act and call in the military, but so far, that’s not working.

Which brings us back to that Qatari bank. Why is he shoving hundreds of millions of dollars of American assets into his own private account?

I’ll give a likely answer by asking a question…..

What do dictators do when they fear their regime is about to come crashing down and their loyal subjects are not so loyal any more…. In fact they are pissed? What did Assad just do?
Shah of Iran as Khomeni flew from France to Tehran? Somoza as the Sandinistas rolled into Managua. Idi Amin and a passel of African dictators as their illegitimate reigns crashed and burned?

They fled for their boltholes, prepared and properly feathered ahead of time.

My guess is Trump is preparing for that option that will be ready if he decides he needs to flee.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/15/26 11:49 PM
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He’s already selling hijacked Venezuelan oil and squirreling the proceeds into a private Qatari bank account - zambon

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Not too private if the likes of you knows about it. MUS.
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/16/26 8:42 AM
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Rev. ZambOHni,

I have a little suggestion for you.

All the extreme hyperbole you make your arguments in detracts from rather than strengthens your anti-Trump rants.

Being so over the top is not a sign of strength, it's a sign of weakness. Of lack of confidence in your contentions.

So, you're like the little kid in school who is insecure, so on career day, his parent is a brain surgeon/astronaut/firefighter/Delta force warrior/billionaire.

Instead of calling ICE agents "storm troopers," (again the Nazi stuff, boring!), which is pure emotion on your part, be factual in your contentions: "ICE agents, many of whom are poorly trained, poorly vetted, overly aggressive, and when confronted by interference from and by protestors, become fearful--perhaps in some cases rightfully so--and don't respond optimally..." or something of that nature.

I don't necessarily agree with my own hypothetical characterization of ICE agents (on your behalf), but it's certainly a plausibly arguable position for someone who opposes ICE.

Also, the difference between your delusional take and my reality-based take is very important, because my reality-based criticisms of ICE imply possible solutions. Your delusion-based paranoia and politics driven description of ICE agents as "storm troopers" does not imply a solution, as you are again "splitting"--they aren't ill-trained working class people trying to do a very difficult job, they are Nazis (in your opinion).

My description implies possible real world solutions such as: Better training; better vetting; maybe psychological testing; and so forth. Of course my real world take also implies that any real world solutions will require more funding of ICE, not less, and certainly not elimination of ICE.

This is just another variation on the Left advocating DEFUND THE POLICE for YEARS. Until the delusional nature of such a position became apparent, and all the Leftists who hoped to have a political future backed down real fast.

Now it's DEFUND (Eliminate) ICE.

You're not looking to solve problems, or even to understand them.

You're looking to project your own inner bad object on the "other" in your Manichean world view (everything is good or bad, black or white, no nuance, etc.) which is psychological.
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/16/26 9:36 AM
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All.the.extreme.hyperbole

Don’t call me by your family names.
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Author: Labadal   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/16/26 10:34 AM
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My description implies possible real world solutions such as: Better training; better vetting; maybe psychological testing; and so forth. Of course my real world take also implies that any real world solutions will require more funding of ICE, not less, and certainly not elimination of ICE.

Why would it necessarily require more funding rather than more time and care? Why does training, vetting, and testing need to be done in such slapdash fashion? Trump and his Administration never seem to try to get things right, through quality service and abiding by the laws in place. Instead, they rush, rush, rush, and damn the consequences. Marco, does that not bother you?
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/16/26 10:47 AM
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My description implies possible real world solutions such as: Better training; better vetting; maybe psychological testing; and so forth. Of course my real world take also implies that any real world solutions will require more funding of ICE, not less, and certainly not elimination of ICE.

The problem isn’t that the Nazis need better training.

The problem is THAT THEY ARE NAZIS.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/16/26 5:30 PM
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Which brings us back to that Qatari bank. Why is he shoving hundreds of millions of dollars of American assets into his own private account?

Well, here's the cover:

SNIP Trump issued an executive order Friday in which he said any such attempts to put liens, garnishments or other legal judgments claiming those funds are blocked. The order said if the funds were not free from such legal entanglements it would “substantially interfere with our critical efforts to ensure economic and political stability in Venezuela.”

Placing the money into an account in Qatar – potentially out of the reach of western businesses and creditors who have claims for money they say they’re owed – is one way to achieve the administration’s goals. SNIP

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/15/business/qatar-vene...

I'm not saying he won't get some of it, but the story given out by the White House does make sense.
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/16/26 5:36 PM
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I'm not saying he won't get some of it, but the story given out by the White House does make sense.

He has a phalanx of lawyers and spin-masters to make it sound good. The bottom line is still that he is putting himself at the head of the line, before everyone else with legitimate claims.

Steve
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/16/26 6:52 PM
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Better training; better vetting; maybe psychological testing; and so forth.

All your "suggestions" are FAR beyond the capabilities of the idiots Spankee needs to get into his Storm Trooper legions.

If they were actually capable of doing what you listed, they would NOT DO IT.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: You arn't MAGA if you are against war
Date: 01/16/26 8:19 PM
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He has a phalanx of lawyers and spin-masters to make it sound good.


I think everyone knows that Steve. I'm interested to see if and how he cuts himself in. The way I see it is he's moved it away from where accountability is very possible, such as Europe, to where accountability may not be possible. Who has control over the accounts and can audit them? Qatari could make it untraceable. And if he gets out of power, will Qatari block investigations? There seems to be so much grift and corruption going on we'll need multiple phalanxes of investigators.
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