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People should never forget that Reagan said this, and that Nixon expressed ZERO objection to Reagan's gut-felt sentiment.
REAGAN: "RONALD REAGAN: Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did...
RICHARD NIXON: Yeah.
REAGAN: ...To see those monkeys from those African countries. Damn them. They're still uncomfortable wearing shoes.
NIXON: (Laughter) Well, and then they - the tail wags the dog there, doesn't it?
REAGAN: Yeah.
NIXON: The tail wags the dog."
Never forget that his 'welfare queens' statements, and regurgitations of that sentiment by people since (Obama phones!) are a direct offshoot of Reagan's heartfelt beliefs.
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White Liberal Racists indeed *did* help the "Welfare Queens" come about and to this day if someone questions the family structures or lifestyles the Club 401K'ers shout "racist".
Racist White liberals only like "people of color" that they have dominion over.
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White Liberal Racists indeed *did* help the "Welfare Queens" come about and to this day if someone questions the family structures or lifestyles the Club 401K'ers shout "racist".
Racist White liberals only like "people of color" that they have dominion over.
Lyndon B. Johnson, while passing The Great Society stuff that ultimately helped destroy a lot of families via created dependency, famously said "I'll have those <blankers> voting democrat for 200 years".
Funny how Not. A. Single. Board. liberal. wants to touch that quote and what it means.
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Bbbbbbbut Reagan's a waaaaacissss. Try again, gang.
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Funny how Not. A. Single. Board. liberal. wants to touch that quote and what it means. It means he was a foul mouthed Texan who, regardless of his crude beagle torturing demeanor, signed the Civil Rights Act.
"The most sweeping civil rights legislation passed by Congress since the post-Civil War Reconstruction era, the Civil Rights Act prohibited racial discrimination in employment and education and outlawed racial segregation in public places such as schools, buses, parks and swimming pools.
In addition, the bill laid important groundwork for a number of other pieces of legislation'including the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which set strict rules for protecting the right of African Americans to vote'that have since been used to enforce equal rights for women as well as all minorities and LGBTQ people"https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/johnso...
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Lyndon B. Johnson, while passing The Great Society stuff that ultimately helped destroy a lot of families via created dependency, famously said "I'll have those <blankers> voting democrat for 200 years".
Funny how Not. A. Single. Board. liberal. wants to touch that quote and what it means.
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Why not? LBJ was a creature of his time. While the quote can't be verified, it is in keeping with his speech. He did use the word n!gger a lot. This was a guy who kept a picture in his office of Precinct Box 13 on the hood of a car surrounded by his fellows. The stories about that box are interesting and worth reading. He was a product of that Texas time.
What can be verified is, "We lost the South for a generation," and variations on that appear different places.
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Why not? LBJ was a creature of his time. While the quote can't be verified, it is in keeping with his speech. He did use the word n!gger a lot.So he gets a pass, does he?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-democratic-part...(Note the left wing friendly site)
When I was nine, a friend of my father's worked in the LBJ White House and was unhappily close with LBJ. He was writing a book about his experiences with this foul-mouthed, racist president and somehow I got my hands on it. I was fascinated. I had never encountered such words or their rampant use -- even when no vulgarity was necessary, an inside view of a president that 99.9% of the country never saw.
LBJ was an awful man. He only promoted and signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the 1965 Voting Rights Act because he thought it was politically expedient. He disagreed violently and kept it a secret, something I think is unreservedly detestable. Or is it a common politician's disease?
Let's look at another quote attributed to "Great Society & Civil Rights Hero" LBJ:
"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again."...and we know how democrats felt about Reconstruction, don't we?
While we're at it, here are some more Awesomely Awesome quotes from democrats:
"Mr. President, the crime of lynching . . . is not of sufficient importance to justify this legislation."
-- Sen. Claude Pepper (D., Fla.), 1938, spoken during a six-hour speech against the anti-lynching bill
"I am a former Kleagle [recruiter] of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County . . . The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia. It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state in the union."
-- Robert C. Byrd, 1946, Democratic Senator from West Virginia, 1959-2010, Senate Majority Leader, 1977-80 and 1987-88, Senate President Pro Tempore, 1989-95, 2001-03, 2007-2010
President Truman's civil rights program "is a farce and a sham--an effort to set up a police state in the guise of liberty. I am opposed to that program. I have voted against the so-called poll tax repeal bill ... I have voted against the so-called anti-lynching bill."
-- Rep. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1948, U.S. Senator, 1949-61, Senate Majority Leader, 1955-61, President, 1963-69
"I did not lie awake at night worrying about the problems of Negroes."
-- Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, 1961.
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No, Johnson gets no pass, except that he did do some good. When it comes to history, presentism is a sin, but I'm not like Sano, I'm not vulgar in my approach. It's never been any secret what LBJ was, thus I point to the Precinct 13 box on the hood of the car. That you walk right past that is telling.
And this line:
He (Johnson) only promoted and signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the 1965 Voting Rights Act because he thought it was politically expedient.
Your BS detector should go off here. There was nothing politically expedient about those acts.
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"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again."
Take this quote: [Said to Senator Richard Russell, Jr. (D-GA) regarding the Civil Rights Act of 1957]' (The CRA 1957 got torn apart in committee.
Russell supported racial segregation and co-authored the Southern Manifesto with Strom Thurmond. Russell and 17 fellow Democratic Senators, along with one Republican, blocked the passage of civil rights legislation via the filibuster. After Russell's protégé, President Lyndon B. signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into law,[9] Russell led a Southern boycott of the 1964 Democratic National Convention.[10] Russell served in the Senate until his death from emphysema in 1971.
But of course what you quote says it was all done for political expediency. This isn't fun pointing this out to you, it's all a partisan game to you. I got taught to really appreciate history by some Americans, Filipinos, and American Filipinos. I watched them and participated in debates on the Philippine American War. What I learned was that I didn't know much history and had deep respect for those that did and could talk intelligently with an even keel. There were little juniors with their favorite axe to grind. I learned to find the historian's historian in the era and read her/him. A lot of what I learned about US history was not flattering at all. And many Filipinos want to nurture grievances, but it became apparent that if you did that, you lost your way.
So LBJ was a product of his Texas time, and spoka dat lingo that all the segregationist/bigots knew back then. It looks like he's appealing to the bad part of Russel's character to pass a bill, and failed at that point because it got destroyed in committee. I know this observation will be lost on you. I wish we had a good US historian here to learn from.
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But of course what you quote says it was all done for political expediency.
Because it was. That's historical fact. It just happens to partially wreck the narrative you all have been pushing.
This isn't fun pointing this out to you, it's all a partisan game to you.
As it is to you, evidently.
So LBJ was a product of his Texas time, and spoka dat lingo that all the segregationist/bigots knew back then. It looks like he's appealing to the bad part of Russel's character to pass a bill, and failed at that point because it got destroyed in committee. I know this observation will be lost on you. I wish we had a good US historian here to learn from.
No, you're handwaving away LBJ's racist history something fierce. With this statement you're attempting to play to the Appeal To Authority card hoping that some "expert" (that conveniently agrees with you) shows up to bail you out. Not going to happen; you need to make arguments that stand on their own.
The great thing about history is that...it is. All the facts are there, the stories are out there. One merely needs the courage to go out and confront some uncomfortable truths about one's beliefs.
You've been shown in this thread that your assumptions about the Republican party were based on incorrect information and that in reality if you really want to fault a modern political party for racist tactics you really ought to be looking in the other direction.
The US has a mixed history. We've done a lot of good in the world, we've done our share of harm in the world. More harm than some, but not as much as others. We're not perfect and we have a ways to go, but guess what?
We're still the best place on Earth.
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Your BS detector should go off here. There was nothing politically expedient about those acts.
Yes, there was. He recognized that African-Americans weren't going to be denied their rights anymore and he realized that the democrat party need to adopt a different strategy for it to survive. Ceding a large and rising portion of the population to the Republicans would have cost him and his party far more than "the South for a generation".
It's history, it's facts.
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The US has a mixed history. We've done a lot of good in the world, we've done our share of harm in the world. More harm than some, but not as much as others. We're not perfect and we have a ways to go, but guess what?
We're still the best place on Earth. - Dope
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Exactly. And that is what our children should be being taught in school regardless of what race the are. But instead there is attempted indoctrination that we are a a racist country where success is only available to privileged white people and patriotism and pride are so yesterday, take a knee and embrace your guilt (or victim hood depending on your ethnicity).
It may not be quite that bad but it seems that way at times.
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When it comes to history, presentism is a sin, but I'm not like Sano, I'm not vulgar in my approach.
Well, hush mah mouth. Was I vulgar in this thread?
Despite my regular contribution of religious dogma/atheist on-topic posts, the board is primarily political and MAGA loves their vulgar kultleader. I was baptized Catholic so I can get absolved in the morning.
As pennace for vulgarity I offer this reflection of LBJ's of his stint teaching Mexican kids in Texas:
"I shall never forget the faces of the boys and the girls in that little Welhausen Mexican School, and I remember even yet the pain of realizing and knowing then that college was closed to practically every one of those children because they were too poor. And I think it was then that I made up my mind that this nation could never rest while the door to knowledge remained closed to any American" - LBJ