Be nice to people. This changes the whole environment.
- Manlobbi
Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
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To be fair to the Canary Islands, the ship probably needs to off-load in a 1st world country that can handle quarantine protocols. I've been to the Canaries, and they are lovely. I'm not sure they are set up for this sort of crisis (don't really know since we didn't have to utilize their emergency medical services). They keep their people safe by not letting anyone visit them (e.g. during COVID).
Hanta is transmitted via rodent droppings (primarily). It is sort of an indictment of this cruise line that they have rodents on their ship(s). I've never seen one on the many cruises we have taken over the years. They have safeguards to prevent them boarding (e.g. barriers on the mooring lines).
However, I do agree that getting rid of disease specialists, emergency response specialists, and the like, is ill-advised. We hired those folks for a reason, and funded their departments for a reason. If we fire them all, those reasons will almost certainly become apparent, and we won't have the folks in place to deal with them.
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It is sort of an indictment of this cruise line that they have rodents on their ship(s).
It appears that patient 1 (and 2) were a couple that visited a rat-infested dump on an excursion in Argentina. Couldn't all other cases be related without rats actually being aboard the cruise ship?
Pete
No. of Recommendations: 2
It appears that patient 1 (and 2) were a couple that visited a rat-infested dump on an excursion in Argentina. Couldn't all other cases be related without rats actually being aboard the cruise ship?
I am far from an infectious disease expert. However, hantavirus is in Arizona. So I know a little. Hanta doesn't transmit well among humans. So, if you get it, your wife probably won't get it from you. You really have to be exposed to the droppings (especially dried, as they aerosolize very well once dry).
I won't say "impossible", since this isn't my area. That is just my layman's understanding.
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Hanta doesn't transmit well among humans.
Yes, that's my understanding as well and probably why so relatively few out of the hundreds on board actually tested positive for it. It seems very coincidental, though, that the very first people to get the virus were those who were in a rat-infested location on land and only after they had it, did several others test positive for it. It transmits very much unlike COVID, which probably would have infected many more aboard.
Pete
No. of Recommendations: 0
They Fired The People Who Would Save You
Hand RFK Jr a cotton swab, a bottle of isopropyl alcohol, and a hard landing on the Hondius.
Problem solved--or maybe TWO problems solved. We will find out after the fact. If no proof the Hondius is sterilized, sink it deep into the Atlantic. Thoughts and prayers, etc for RFK Jr.
Works for me.
No. of Recommendations: 2
And this time we have more time to see how Trump mishandles a public health emergency.
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Replying to PucksFool
And this time we have more time to see how Trump mishandles a public health emergency.
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Agreed. Currently, the worst public health emergency we are now facing is the astounding profusion of brain-dead radical Leftists spouting insane historically inaccurate illogical opinions to advance an equally insane political agenda.
Trump isn't doing nearly enough to stamp that, and them, out.
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I am far from an infectious disease expert. However, hantavirus is in Arizona. So I know a little. Hanta doesn't transmit well among humans. So, if you get it, your wife probably won't get it from you. You really have to be exposed to the droppings (especially dried, as they aerosolize very well once dry).
All true, as far as it goes. But that doesn’t explain the current Argentinian variety of Hantavirus, which does transmit person to person, though not with the virulence of COVID or measles.
The incubation period, however, is long, making contact tracing a bit more difficult.
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All true, as far as it goes. But that doesn’t explain the current Argentinian variety of Hantavirus, which does transmit person to person, though not with the virulence of COVID or measles.
If that strain was anywhere near as transmissible as Covid, it would have charged out of Argentina, and overrun the world, years ago.
But, that doesn't stop the media from pushing plague hysteria, again, especially on days when they can't find anything they can pump up to "severe weather" hysteria.
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 1
Why did they let the people exposed to Hanta Virus off the cruise ship???
They should have MOAB'ed the damn thing. Incinerated the ship and everything on it.
It's the only way.
Fortunately, as far as I know, you can't get the Hanta Virus from ROAD APPLES.
So, WZAMBONEHEAD, keep sniffing your favorite aroma.
No. of Recommendations: 13
So, WZAMBONEHEAD, keep sniffing your favorite aroma.
Quite the opposite.
I warn people about your horseshit so they don’t have to sniff it.
Don’t even have to smell it myself.
I see the horseshit falling to the ground from a horse’s ass, and I issue the warning.
