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"Netanyahu nominating Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize is like Ted Bundy Nominating Jeffery Dahmer for a James Beard award."

Why are Liberals always insulting our Democratically elected ALLY leaders?

"Democracy!"

"Our allies!"


bullshit.

What's hilarious is that all these guys lined up to glaze Obama for his NBP...after the guy had been in office only a few months and had done nothing other than give a speech in Cairo.

Meanwhile, they're aghast at the idea of giving Trump one despite
-The Abraham Accords
-Getting India and Pakistan to knock it off
-Stopping the war in the Congo <--- libs have zero idea on this one
-His role as the intermediary between Israel/Iran and Israel/Hamas
-His role in getting Putin to the peace table

Reality just doesn't apply to these people.

Dope1: Getting India and Pakistan to knock it off

Umm... Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, in a phone call with Trump, asserted that the ceasefire was a result of direct talks between the Indian and Pakistani militaries and that India has a longstanding policy of not accepting third-party mediation in its relationship with Pakistan.


Dope1: Stopping the war in the Congo <--- libs have zero idea on this one

A peace that does not include M23 is no peace at all but it doesn't stop Mad King Donald from patting himself on the back.


Dope1: His role as the intermediary between Israel/Iran and Israel/Hamas

Umm. Mad King Donald bombed Iran, hardly the action of a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize. And he has suggested that Palestinians should be forced to relocate from Gaza to other countries. He has also mentioned the possibility of the U.S. taking over and developing Gaza into a "Riviera of the Middle East."


Dope1: His role in getting Putin to the peace table

What now?

Russia has increased the frequency of its attacks on Ukraine since May when it launched a summer offensive in the conflict, now in its fourth year. It has also ramped up its production of drones: In June alone Moscow launched 2,736 Shahed kamikaze drones at Ukraine, the country’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said in an address to the parliament of the Netherlands on Tuesday. In addition, the Kremlin continues to launch dozens of missiles at Ukraine.


Dope1Reality just doesn't apply to these people.

You're too f*cking funny.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/india-disputes-...

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-kills-17-at...

Dope1: Getting India and Pakistan to knock it off

Dope, did you really fall for that horseshit?

Trump has become the premier virtual photobomber.

Somebody, somewhere makes a deal, or didn’t make a deal, and Trump claims he made the deal happen.

And very often, there was no deal at all.

It's just lovely how all of these problems are European and European created.

Wish there was a way to let Putin have it - in return for him leaving us the hell alone and vice versa.

Nice to fantasize if nothing else.

Dope1Reality just doesn't apply to these people.

You FOOL! You've inverted everything! You live in upside down world. OMG, how blind can you be?

The International War Crimes Court has labeled Netanyahu a War Criminal.

Who nominates a 23 times convicted felon for a Nobel Peace Prize.

For bombing a country we are not at war with.

To stop nuclear production which accelerated after he tore up the deal which governed it.


And Dope can’t see the irony.

And Dope has instructed us on Iran’s attacks on the US and how awful that supposed ‘nuclear deal’ was.

Indeed. The only people who thought Iran was holding to that “deal” were the antisemites in the Obama admin that drafted it in the first place. Of course they probably didn’t mind if Iran got - and perhaps used - the bomb.

Indeed. The only people who thought Iran was holding to that “deal” were the antisemites in the Obama admin that drafted it in the first place. Of course they probably didn’t mind if Iran got - and perhaps used - the bomb.

The deal delayed Iran getting the bomb, no one thought Iran wouldn't eventually get a bomb, but a 15-20 year delay was a good idea, we could deal with the problem later, and perhaps put it off even further. But when Trump departed the deal, Iran started up again in earnest. A two year delay now puts us closer to Iran getting a bomb than under the Obama deal. The situation is not improved, it's worse than under Obama. Of course your capacity to pretend otherwise is infinite, so you have that on your side.

The deal delayed Iran getting the bomb, no one thought Iran wouldn't eventually get a bomb, but a 15-20 year delay w

The “deal” was idiotic. It made no mention of Iran’s ballistic missiles program and support of terrorism globally. It had no teeth. And it gave Iran pallets of cash to be used however it wanted.

Only the extremely naive or antisemitic thought it was worth the paper it was printed on. Even the IAEA eventually threw up their hands.

You people lack any ability to understand technical topics and the motivations of our enemies. You believe everything in the world is Trump’s fault.

But it’s not him. It’s you.

Of course they probably didn’t mind if Iran got - and perhaps used - the bomb.

Dope, you are so full of shit. Being in a cult means losing the ability to think rationally, and never question the Dear Leader.

Indeed. The only people who thought Iran was holding to that “deal” were the antisemites in the Obama admin that drafted it in the first place. Of course they probably didn’t mind if Iran got - and perhaps used - the bomb.

“Fever dreams”: Exhibit 6,254

"You people"... "You believe"... Dope, you continually make accusations and get what most of us believe entirely wrong, so they become straw men. And this is deliberate on your part - part if your shtick - you're proud of it, you think it's great.

“Fever dreams”

That would be the people that insisted on this stupid deal in the first place. Goes double for those that to this day insist that it was the right thing to do.

When faced with that kind of denial of reality, it's not a stretch to make extrapolations from there.

“You people”: Rhetorical breakfast of scoundrels

Dope, you continually make accurate observations of what libs post here.

Yes.

BTW, all you people have to do is...stop flinging insults.

Start debating using facts and logic.

But you can't, can you? Don't you ever stop and ask yourself why that is?

“You people”: Rhetorical breakfast of scoundrels

Oh, I get it. lib posters don't ID as "people" anymore. Are you all a bunch of Furries instead?

Dope, you continually make accurate observations of what libs post here.

Yes.

When you have to make up your own statement and then agree with it, you are carrying on a dialogue with yourself.

Folks who do that usually think they are engaged in conversation with the smartest person in the room.

Oh, I get it. lib posters don't ID as "people" anymore. Are you all a bunch of Furries instead?

Oh look! Dope thinks he just made an observation followed by a penetrating analysis!

When you have to make up your own statement and then agree with it, you are carrying on a dialogue with yourself.

I've often toyed with creating a doppel and adopting left wing positions. I could do so without the bile that you people fling around the board.

Political debate isn't hard. It just requires one to...not be a jerk.

Oh look! Dope nailed it!

Indeed.

I've often toyed with creating a doppel and adopting left wing positions.

You basically do that already, and have for at least 20 years.

You basically do that already, and have for at least 20 years.

Are you claiming that all of you are closet conservatives? That'd be interesting.

Although I suspect that deep down you people know that the progressive cliff the democrats have driven off of is a really bad idea and that the nuttier elements of your party have way too much influence right now. It's just a matter of encouraging you all to admit it.

Are you claiming that all of you are closet conservatives?

Nope. I’m claiming you have a long history of claiming to be able to speak for those you disagree with, by reframing what they say into something that bears no resemblance to what they actually said.

Nope. I’m claiming you have a long history of claiming to be able to speak for those you disagree with, by reframing what they say into something that bears no resemblance to what they actually said.

Actually, no.
I've long discussed the possibility of adopting a different name and arguing from the left wing side.

What you don't like is me spelling out the implications of what you people and your politicians say. Collectively the left just doesn't like being on record at all - for anything - because that requires some ability to stand up for what one believes. But since the left is a collect mass of contradictions...you guys just can't do it.

So you say stuff that's vague, not supported by reality...and generally leads to bad outcomes. But the vagueness is your ticket for you to be able to claim years later things like "I was never for an open border!" or (my favorite) "The police were never defunded!".

It's so much easier to avoid accountability and reflection that way.

Political debate isn't hard. It just requires one to...not be a jerk.

You just disqualified yourself.

.... claiming to be able to speak for those you disagree with, by reframing what they say into something that bears no resemblance to what they actually said.

That succinctly describes the Rush Limbaugh show that shaped Dope's dunk tank schtick.

.... claiming to be able to speak for those you disagree with, by reframing what they say into something that bears no resemblance to what they actually said.

That succinctly describes the Rush Limbaugh show that shaped Dope's dunk tank schtick.

Driving in the 90s, I listened to Limbaugh for several years- primarily because he was funny, but his humor depended on doing exactly that- reframing what liberals said into something that bore no resemblance to what they actually said.

And the point was not to generate only laughter, but most importantly- hatred and contempt.

Of course the thing I remember most about him was his insistence that his audience consisted of conservative, independent thinkers, and he called them “dittoheads”, which is what they also called themselves, showing no awareness that the joke was on them.

Rush, as much as anyone, contributed to lack of critical thinking on the right, and the rise of Trumpism as the anti- democratic cancer it has become.

Rush, as much as anyone, contributed to lack of critical thinking on the right, and the rise of Trumpism as the anti- democratic cancer it has become.


And what a travesty to give that asshole propagandist the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Early on his radio show actually had some real humor (unusual for the right), but it was because he had hired writers who knew how to craft a joke. Later, he found he could just rely on his venom to keep the audience engaged and after that he was seldom funny.

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"Netanyahu nominating Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize is like Ted Bundy Nominating Jeffery Dahmer for a James Beard award."

Have a rec for posting what I posted to start off this thread. 😉

Have a rec for posting what I posted to start off this thread. 😉

I thought it sounded familiar!

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