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No. of Recommendations: 10
Clinicians are beginning to speak out: there is "overwhelming" evidence that Donald Trump is suffering from dementia.
Dr. Lance Dodes, a supervising analyst emeritus of the Boston Psychoanalytic Society and Institute and retired Harvard Medical School professor: "Unlike normal aging, which is characterized by forgetting names or words, Trump repeatedly shows something very different: confusion about reality," repeatedly confusing former president Obama with the current president Biden and former governor Nikki Haley with former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Psychologist Suzanne Lachmann said Trump, 77, would "seemingly forget how the sentence began and invent something in the middle" resulting in "an incomprehensible word salad" — a behavior she argued is observed "frequently in patients who have dementia."
John Gartner, a psychologist and former professor at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, said Trump is "showing unmistakable signs strongly suggesting dementia."
Harry Segal, a senior lecturer in the Psychology Department at Cornell University and in the Psychiatry Department at Weill Cornell Medicine said: "Recently, several clinicians have noted the ways he has begun to mistake words, lose his train of thought, confuse Biden with Obama, particularly during long rallies held in the evening. There are examples of phonemic paraphasia – swapping parts of words for others that sound similar; these are signs of early dementia, even though they are intermittent."
Trump's father's mental status was in serious decline for at least seven years before his death from dementia.
Twenty-seven psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals concluded in "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump" that Trump’s mental health posed a “clear and present danger” to the nation.
He's stolen some of the nation's top intelligence secrets and he's scrounging around for money from anyone who'll lend him a nickel.
The guy is a walking, word salad talking threat to the nation.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-dementia-evi...https://news.cornell.edu/media-relations/tip-sheet...
No. of Recommendations: 2
Clinicians are beginning to speak out: there is "overwhelming" evidence that Donald Trump is suffering from dementia. - CO
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LOL, add this to the list of things the libs are trying to sell to voters whose real life experience tells them otherwise.
The statistics say the economy is humming, You are not struggling to meet the expenses of day to day living.
Crime is down and you do not feel fear when you ride the subway.
The border is secure despite the vast numbers on immigrants that can be seen everywhere, hanging out in $400 hotel rooms or at community centers commandeered to become migrant housing.
And now, to the list of suspended disbelief, forget about Biden's struggles, it is Trump who shows real dementia.
The funny think about all this is that it is not working. Even Hispanics and Blacks are shifting towards Trump, or is this another reality you insist does not exist.
No. of Recommendations: 9
bighairymikeinthecult:
The statistics say the economy is humming, You are not struggling to meet the expenses of day to day living.Unlike four years ago, grocery store shelves aren't empty and I can buy as many rolls of toilet paper as I'd like to today. There are no food lines stretching around the block in major cities like there were four years ago. And we're not about to roll in portable freezers to store dead bodies.
Yeah, the economy's doing pretty good.
bighairymikeinthecult:
Crime is down and you do not feel fear when you ride the subway.Crime is down. Everywhere. The new fourth-quarter numbers showed a 13% decline in murder in 2023 from 2022, a 6% decline in reported violent crime and a 4% decline in reported property crime.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/us-crime...bighairymikeinthecult:
The border is secure...That's on you guys, buddy. Trump told Moses Johnson to kill a bipartisan immigration bill that the Border Patrol Officers union urged republicans to pass, saying it would make immediate improvements at the border.
bighairymikeinthecult:
And now, to the list of suspended disbelief, forget about Biden's struggles, it is Trump who shows real dementia.Had you read the articles, you'd understand the difference between simple memory lapses and phonemic paraphasia as well as Trump's family history of dementia. But don't worry, you'll be reading more and more about it as Trump's sun-downing becomes more and more obvious.
No. of Recommendations: 1
LOL, add this to the list of things the libs are trying to sell to voters whose real life experience tells them otherwise.
The statistics say the economy is humming, You are not struggling to meet the expenses of day to day living.
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ME: Two different things. The economy *is* humming - but interests rates need to come down for mortgages, and we need to keep companies from inserting themselves between home buyers and sellers. Core inflation has been stabilizing.
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Crime is down and you do not feel fear when you ride the subway.
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ME: Violent crime *is* down, but property crime isn't.
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The border is secure despite the vast numbers on immigrants that can be seen everywhere,
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ME: The border has never ever been secure. I don't see any immigrants. I hear they're in Texas getting tickets to New York.
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it is Trump who shows real dementia.
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ME: So they say.
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The funny think about all this is that it is not working. Even Hispanics and Blacks are shifting towards Trump, or is this another reality you insist does not ex
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ME:
"With the 2024 election still months away, President Joe Biden has a narrow lead over former president Donald Trump in the polls.
Biden leads Trump 45 percent to 44 percent as of Tuesday, according to The Economist's polling average.
While Biden led Trump for much of 2023, the latest result is the first time the president has been ahead of his rival since September"
We are just going to slowly walk past you.
No. of Recommendations: 1
I sorta question this. In my un-professional opinion, yeah...he probably is. But for a doctor to say so, he/she would have to examine the patient. And that hasn't been done to the best of my knowledge. It's hard to render a medical opinion without conducting whatever examination is appropriate.
No. of Recommendations: 1
bighairymikeinthecult: The statistics say the economy is humming, You are not struggling to meet the expenses of day to day living.
Unlike four years ago, grocery store shelves aren't empty and I can buy as many rolls of toilet paper as I'd like to today. There are no food lines stretching around the block in major cities like there were four years ago. And we're not about to roll in portable freezers to store dead bodies.
Yeah, the economy's doing pretty good.
bighairymikeinthecult: Crime is down and you do not feel fear when you ride the subway.
Crime is down. Everywhere. The new fourth-quarter numbers showed a 13% decline in murder in 2023 from 2022, a 6% decline in reported violent crime and a 4% decline in reported property crime. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/us-crime...
bighairymikeinthecult: The border is secure...
That's on you guys, buddy. Trump told Moses Johnson to kill a bipartisan immigration bill that the Border Patrol Officers union urged republicans to pass, saying it would make immediate improvements at the border.
bighairymikeinthecult: And now, to the list of suspended disbelief, forget about Biden's struggles, it is Trump who shows real dementia.
Had you read the articles, you'd understand the difference between simple memory lapses and phonemic paraphasia as well as Trump's family history of dementia. But don't worry, you'll be reading more and more about it as Trump's sun-downing becomes more and more obvious. - CO----------------
Impressive, just double down on the voters just don't get how great it really is. It must be frustrating to see all your impeccable logic is being rejected the smelly Walmart people who as it turns out are a sizable group and growing with every poll.
No. of Recommendations: 2
I sorta question this. In my un-professional opinion, yeah...he probably is. But for a doctor to say so, he/she would have to examine the patient. And that hasn't been done to the best of my knowledge. It's hard to render a medical opinion without conducting whatever examination is appropriate.
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I agree. There are probably a battery of tests to help confirm, but there are visual and oral indications that are well known, and that is all they are speaking too. I don't think Trump will submit to tests at this point. Let's hope he's not elected so we don't have to deal with finding out.
No. of Recommendations: 6
I sorta question this. In my un-professional opinion, yeah...he probably is. But for a doctor to say so, he/she would have to examine the patient. And that hasn't been done to the best of my knowledge. It's hard to render a medical opinion without conducting whatever examination is appropriate.
Don't exclude the many years of experience with diagnosing and caring for patients with dementia that underlie these conclusions. There are tell-tale behaviors. And I can tell you from personal experience that once you've spent significant time with dementia patients, you're able to recognize the signs quite easily. And the experience of these professionals dwarfs my experiences. Early on, testing is used to determine whether it's mild cognitive impairment/MCI (which may or may no progress to dementia) or actual dementia. And if dementia, assessments are required to determine the type. From my experiences, Trump has progressed beyond MCI. And combined with the demonic narcissism that drives him, it's a very dangerous dynamic to allow in the White House.
I find Biden's lapses to be very different. His memory has its slips (he could benefit from a few helpful supplements). But on the whole, he grasps what he is dealing with and his behavior makes sense.
No. of Recommendations: 1
Don't exclude the many years of experience with diagnosing and caring for patients with dementia that underlie these conclusions. There are tell-tale behaviors. And I can tell you from personal experience that once you've spent significant time with dementia patients, you're able to recognize the signs quite easily. - Sheila
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Tell me about it. My sainted Mother died at 95 and suffered dementia the last 7 or 8 years of her life. I was fortunate to be in a position to visit her in Memory Care at least once a week during that period so I got to observe her slow descent up close my self. I remember the first time she did not recognize me, it was only occasionally at first and then more or less all the time toward the end. I got used to it, just part of the process.
Anyway, getting back to dementia Don, I agree that his apparent energy, stamina, and focus at his rally's and interviews are an act to cover up his disability and this behavior can be easily spotted by an experienced eye.
I recall that sometimes, when I visited my Mother, I would find her engaged in similar behavior, absorbed in lengthy and witty conversations with a group her fellow residents gathered in the activity room at memory Care. She appeared pretty sharp, but I knew better.
No. of Recommendations: 2
It's rejected largely because they are influenced by the propaganda. You are correct, we can't just ignore that disconnect from reality because it is real. By all metrics, the economy is doing really well. But people are inundated by "it's terrible" messages all day every day, and they start to believe it. We need (somehow) to get real information to those poor souls. Ignoring them will only harm the Dems.
And, yes, that is a bit frustrating. Whether religion, or the economy, or the status of Elvis...it's difficult to get through to some people what reality actually is.
No. of Recommendations: 1
Yes. Dealing with mom, I can see some of the signs, too. Or at least I think I can. There are some things that are similar to my mom. But it's another matter issuing diagnoses in the media, IMO. Yes, from what I can tell, his dementia is getting worse. But I'm not a doctor, I'm just a guy whose mom had dementia.
Though it is difficult to parse dementia from his toxic narcissism from his enjoying being the center of attention (e.g. rambling on and on and on because he likes to hear his own voice).
No. of Recommendations: 1
I was fortunate to be in a position to visit her in Memory Care at least once a week during that period so I got to observe her slow descent up close my self.
This isn't on-topic of US Policy, but what the heck...
My mom had the bad luck that we really spotted it just before COVID. At first it was mild. She was in independent living, but she used the community van, and relied on their meal prep. We got her moved, and visited her or called her fairly regularly. At one point, the facility called and said that she was requiring more attention than could be given in IL. So we moved her to AL. Lots of word finding, sticky notes everywhere. She started to be concerned that people were coming into her room and taking her things. During COVID we couldn't really visit her**. The dementia accelerated, and they had to move her to MC while they were in a lock-down. The last time I visited before she had her stroke, we were there for an hour before she realized who we were. She often wouldn't recognize my voice on the phone.
Donnie is nowhere near that, as near as I can tell. I think some word finding, and he easily wanders off-topic when speaking (often seeming to forget what the topic was, and never returning to it). So, yeah...I think I'm seeing signs of dementia. But, again, I'm just a guy whose mom had dementia, and had to watch the decline.
**Plus 1poorlady had cancer, and was in chemo for a while. Nuked her immune system for the better part of a year, so we played keep-away with her. Probably overly cautious, but whenever we went out we stripped in the garage (leaving the clothes in the washer), and showered before we would check on her. With COVID running around, and people dying in droves, we were hyper-careful. Which meant no visiting mom, either.
No. of Recommendations: 1
I was fortunate to be in a position to visit her in Memory Care at least once a week during that period so I got to observe her slow descent up close my self.
This isn't on-topic of US Policy, but what the heck...
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I think in this context it is entirely on topic. We were talking about diagnosing Dementia Don's condition from afar without an examination. That well known fact was being pushed back on along the lines of, "you can't diagnose dementia that way". Sheila chimed in with, "Yes you can. An experienced eye can spot it easily."
I simply came in with a personal anecdote, in support of Sheila, that Trumps manifest boundless enthusiasm, energy, lucidity, and sense of humor may appear normal but to a trained observer, even from afar, the dementia is present, and we should take the experts word for it.
No. of Recommendations: 1
It must be frustrating to see all your impeccable logic is being rejected the smelly Walmart people who as it turns out are a sizable group and growing with every poll.
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I'm not sure about the Walmart, I shop at Walmart. ;)
Maybe the smelly ones are in Texas. :p
No. of Recommendations: 0
I'm not sure about the Walmart, I shop at Walmart. ;)
Maybe the smelly ones are in Texas. :p - Lapsody
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Well, I shop at Walmart occasionally and I am fresh as a dewy meadow. The great patriot, Peter Strozk expressed his "smell" sentiment to his paramour after returning from a trip to Walmart in Virginia as I recall.
So maybe Strozk meant just in VA but I don't think so. I suppose to illustrate a genuine general contempt for all of flyover country, I should have went with basket of deplorables.
No. of Recommendations: 0
Well, people of Walmart is right up there with Florida Man. Remember all the pictures? And Walmarts have to be near populations. The general distrust of back east has been going om before they became states and before there was a country.
People need to get out and see the country and leave the US for a bit. There's a suicide belt in the high Western semi arid areas that are sparsely populated and snowed in much of the year. And farmers have a high suicide rate. I get concerned because I like small farmers, MAGA or not.
No. of Recommendations: 0
Well, now I know you're being facetious. Trump has a distinct lack of lucidity, and has never exhibited a sense of humor since at least 2016 (I didn't pay attention to him prior to that). He does have energy when at a rally, but that isn't really an indication (one way or the other) of dementia. Most photos of him when not at a rally, he seems to be "dragging" and listless. But, again, not really an indicator of dementia.
