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The president of the Boston University College Republicans appeared to claim credit for an immigration raid on a car wash in Allston in which nine workers were detained, saying in a social media post that he had been “calling ICE for months on end” to “detain these criminals.”

Zachary Segal, president of the university’s GOP student chapter, made the comment in a post on X on Nov. 7, above a Boston.com article about the raid.

“This week they finally responded to my request,” Segal wrote. “As someone who lives in the neighborhood, I’ve seen how American jobs are being given away to those with no right to be here.”

“Pump up the numbers!” he added.

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An ICE spokesperson declined to comment on Segal’s claim or say whether his calls led to the raid.

Five women and four men were detained in the Nov. 4 raid, and many of them hold legal status and valid work permits, according to their attorney, who said they have no criminal record to warrant deportation.

Segal declined to comment Thursday beyond confirming he had made the post. But later Thursday morning, he made a follow-up post that included a screenshot of a Boston Globe article about his involvement, writing “we must stand up for this country.” (The follow-up was reposted by the official

Whoops, hit the wrong button and went live before I got a chance to link to the story in the Globe, and to say:

“You have yourself a wonderful day today, Zac. At college. In Boston. Enjoy!”

I’ve seen how American jobs are being given away to those with no right to be here.”

Meanwhile, his God and savior, was telling Laura Ingraham how there aren't people in the US that have the right skills.

What foreigners with special skills, unavailable in the US, has Trump been hiring?

(from that notorious Commie rag, Forbes)

As Trump Defends Foreign Workers, His Company Sought Record Number In 2025

The Trump Organization sought to bring in at least 184 foreign workers in 2025 for temporary positions at Mar-a-Lago, two golf clubs and a Virginia winery through H-2A and H-2B visas, according to data from the Department of Labor.

During Trump’s five years in office, the Trump Organization filed to bring in at least 566 foreign workers.

The jobs—primarily servers, clerks, housekeepers, kitchen staff and farm workers—pay between $15.58 and $27.91 an hour, per Department of Labor listings.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2025/11/1...

I didn't know there was a national shortage of housekeepers and servers?

Steve

I didn't know there was a national shortage of housekeepers and servers?

The manager of the car wash said that the employees had their identification in lockers, including green cards (hello, it's a car wash), but of course the ICE goons would not let them retrieve them. He still has no idea where they were whisked away to.

How would the manager of the car wash know that his employees had their green cards in their lockers?

Sounds like b.s.

Presumably when they were hired, they filled out I-9s which the employer should have on file.

Of course, as you say, it's a car wash, so most of the employees are probably off the books and paid in cash.

How would the manager of the car wash know that his employees had their green cards in their lockers?

Here's a better question——why would you possibly be talking right now?

It goes without saying that you don't know the first thing about it——apart from your certain knowledge that Heather Cox Richardson is not a car-wash expert, I mean.

Thank you for the reminders that you and your ilk are here to amuse us, not to instruct us.

How would the manager of the car wash know that his employees had their green cards in their lockers?

Sounds like b.s.

Because it’s a CAR WASH! Where else would they keep them?

Why wouldn’t the goons allow them to retrieve their IDs from the lockers?

As it is now, the goons have given these immigrants an excellent defense against deportation.

Unless, of course, they’re hustled onto a night flight to Uganda.

"Zachary Segal, president of the university’s GOP student chapter, made the comment in a post on X on Nov. 7, above a Boston.com article about the raid.

“This week they finally responded to my request,” Segal wrote. “As someone who lives in the neighborhood, I’ve seen how American jobs are being given away to those with no right to be here.”

Why am I not surprised that Zachary Segal, president of the university’s GOP student chapter, doesn't understand that immigrants also help create jobs by coming to the U.S. They need a place to live, they need food to eat, they buy iPhones, they buy gas for their vehicles, etc.

Because unlike the totalitarian regime ProGlibs wish to impose on everyone else, on social media, everyone is allowed to state their opinion.

How does it being a car wash give the manager x-ray vision to see into all the employees' lockers?

Also, it seems that under federal law, green card holders are required to carry the green cards on their persons at all times.

Not sure why working in a "car wash" exempts them from that requirement?

Rule of Law, right? We all claim to believe in the Rule of Law, don't we?

How does it being a car wash give the manager x-ray vision to see into all the employees' lockers?

It’s a car wash. Employees get soaked. Employers offer lockers so their employees can put their wallets and other vulnerable objects there so they don’t get wet.

You think it was a leap of logic for that employer to say what he did?

wzambon,

As I pointed out in another post, green card holders must have them on their persons at all times.

If they are worried about them getting wet, obviously they could keep them in a ziplock or other water tight container.

But how exactly would the manager know what his employees did or did not put into their lockers that morning?

He doesn't.

They are probably all off the books and the manager doesn't want to admit that he is aware of that, as he doesn't want to possibly be subject to prosecution.

wzambon,

Also, presumably the manager of the car wash has a master key or otherwise has the ability to access the employees' lockers, and if, as their attorney is claiming, they had their green cards in their lockers, why doesn't the attorney just ask the car wash to open the lockers so they can retrieve the green cards (or work authorizations)?

A relative of 3 of the arrested car wash employees characterized them as "immigrants" but never stated that they were present in the U.S. with legal status nor that they had valid work authorizations. Surely she would have clarified that if they were in the U.S. and working legally.

Plus the car wash should have I-9s on each employee which could easily be provided to their attorney.

Not sure why working in a "car wash" exempts them from that requirement?

Rule of Law, right? We all claim to believe in the Rule of Law, don't we?

Still talking, I see. Who could have guessed?

I have to go run some errands, but I want to clarify something for you before I head out.

You mention "AI" a lot, but you've failed to gasp the basic concept.

Artificial Intelligence is something that takes place inside computational systems.

It's not your attempts to mimic somebody with half a brain.

Plus the car wash should have I-9s on each employee which could easily be provided to their attorney.

Every single one of your objections is rendered irrelant by the fact that the operation was a goon squad doing a snatch and grab.

Why didn’t they let the immigrants access their lockers before carting them off?

Your “the law requires them to have papers on their person” may be legally correct, but the documents were only feet away (in the lockers) when they hustled them off.

You think these immigrants are going to get a hearing before being disappeared?

I hope so.

How would the manager of the car wash know that his employees had their green cards in their lockers?

Sounds like b.s.

Reboot your BS meter. People usually keep their Green Cards and IDs in their wallets or purses, Id you are a laborer at a car wash, would you keep your wallet/purse on your person, or in the locker? If they were white folks ICE might let them get their wallets and purses, but now it's numbers, big time since they replaced the ICE mangers with Border patrol managers. It sounds about right.

"Also, it seems that under federal law, green card holders are required to carry the green cards on their persons at all times.

Not sure why working in a "car wash" exempts them from that requirement?

Rule of Law, right? We all claim to believe in the Rule of Law, don't we?" - Dumbass Marco

LOL....

Do you think this requirement means they must carry them when they shower, go swimming, etc. Or do you think it means it must have them easily accessible (like in a nearby locker perhaps)?

Please, let's see just how far you want to carry on this stupidity? How deep of hole do you want to dig before giving up and recognize your foolishness?

See point 3

Examples of what might be considered "in possession" by the courts:

1. Carrying the document on your person (e.g., in a wallet, purse, or pocket).
2. Having the document readily available in a vehicle you are driving or controlling. (In the glovebox)
3. Having the document in a location where you are physically present and have immediate access to it.

Seems like a reasonable person would accept a locker that the employee could open immediately as "in possession". Literal interpretations are generally myopic.

Wzambon,

You keep assuming that they all had green cards in their lockers that day, even though there is no way the "manager" could or would have known what was, or what was not, in the employees' lockers, without looking.

It's been at least a week since this occurred, and so far, not a PEEP from their lawyer, their family members, or anyone else confirming that 1) any of the 9 arrested were legally in the U.S.; 2) any of the 9 arrested had valid work authorizations.

The manager of the car wash does not know what is or is not in the employees' lockers unless he opens them and looks.

It means what it says.

Kind of strange that in all the time that has passed since they were detained, post the initial manufactured outrage, their attorney has not confirmed their legal status, nor have any of their family members, nor has their employer, which the employer could easily do by accessing their I-9s.

As wzambon repeatedly said, "It's a car wash."

Yeah. They were all off the books workers, getting paid cash under the table. No green cards, no work authorizations, no I-9s.

You keep doing this marco, and it's stupid of you not to learn:

AI Overview
In a recent highly-publicized incident at an Allston, Massachusetts, car wash, lawyers representing the arrested workers stated that
all nine individuals detained had valid legal status and work permits. According to the workers' attorney, Todd Pomerleau, none had criminal records, and they were not given an opportunity to retrieve their documentation during the raid

You keep braying out untrue statements. Stop! We deserve worthy opponents. I already read this in an article and just used AI to verify, but - YOU CAN DO IT TOO!

The manager of the car wash does not know what is or is not in the employees' lockers unless he opens them and looks.

If the locker is never opened then it's Schrodinger's Green Cards and work permits. :)

You realize that DHS has a data base and they can and do check on the legal status of detainees regardless of whether they have physical green cards on them, right?

Let's wait and see what the proof shows. Their lawyers must really suck if they haven't been able to get the supposed green cards out of their work lockers in all this time, right?

You keep assuming that they all had green cards in their lockers that day,

And we’ll never know, because they weren’t given the chance to retrieve them.

Do you think this failure to allow them to retrieve their documents will stand up before a judge?

Again, we may never know if they are not allowed a chance to stand before a judge.

Will they be allowed to stand before a judge?

You answer that question.

Or perhaps my fears are misplaced. Perhaps they are already on a court docket somewhere.

Where are these guys, anyway? Do you know?

AI Overview

And, from a news source, 5 days after the raid.


Allston Car Wash employees still in federal custody after ICE raid
The workers, all of whom have work permits, were detained Nov. 4 in a raid conducted by federal agents last week.

The masked agents asked the workers to show their documents but detained them before giving them a chance to retrieve their work permits from their lockers, according to Barrera.

Since their detainment, getting the necessary information for the workers’ cases has been an uphill battle. Pomerleau told Boston.com that he has had to rely on the employees’ family and friends to get their documents because officials have been unhelpful.

Some of the detainees who are being held at ICE’s Boston field office in Burlington have reported experiencing mistreatment, such as not being fed or given a chance to shower for several days, according to Pomerleau. One detainee was also allegedly transferred to Texas in violation of a court order.

Tricia McLaughlin, the Department of Homeland Security’s assistant secretary, alleged in a statement to Boston 25 News that the nine workers entered the United States illegally.

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2025/11/09/...

The lawyer implies he has dox for the workers, obtained from their families. The regime spokesperson says they are all illegals.

Would these people have been rousted if they were white?

Steve

wzambon,

their immigration attorney is a very well known immigrants rights advocate. Todd something. They were detained on November 4. Obviously Todd could have gone into court and gotten an emergency order to access their work lockers.

Or, simply asked the owner of the business to access their lockers.

The owner of the business isn't talking.

Why not?

Because it's a crime to hire people who are not legally permitted to work in the U.S. to work at your car wash.

Especially off the books.

Hi Steve,

Actually, their lawyer is a clever dude. He never said he had personal knowledge of their status. He's simply reciting what he was told by his clients and/or their relatives. That's his job.

If it turns out that his clients were mistaken, oh well....


....Todd their immigration lawyer is a very skilled immigration rights advocate. Today he supposedly told Newsweek that they have "valid status" and "work documents." But Newsweek didn't actually quote him verbatim in the report I read online.

If the docs are in their lockers, at work, why didn't the employer immediately give their lawyer access to their lockers to get the docs for them? The owner of the business isn't talking. At all.

I'm guessing that they were all working off the books for cash and there are no I-9s. Even if their lockers are impregnable (obviously the employer could access the lockers) because they're made of adamantium or something, the employer HAS TO HAVE their I-9s. Except if there are no I-9s.

....Todd their immigration lawyer is a very skilled immigration rights advocate. Today he supposedly told Newsweek that they have "valid status" and "work documents." But Newsweek didn't actually quote him verbatim in the report I read online.

Found another article reporting statements by Pomerleau:

Todd Pomerleau, a Boston attorney representing the workers, told Boston 25 News that several of them have legal work authorization and pending immigration cases.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/new-video-sho...

Throwing what the lawyer, and the DHS official, said, in the blender, I get "they entered without dox, surrendered to Border Patrol, claimed asylum, received work dox, and a date to state their case to an immigration judge. (SOP for undocumented people crossing the border claiming asylum) ICE scooped them up, without waiting for them to have their day in court".

The ICE teams have aggressive quotas to meet.

I'm old enough to remember the network evening news, iirc on Fridays, reporting the week's body count in 'Nam. Reading the accounts of 'Nam vets, years later, there was so much pressure to meet their "number", that every dead body was added to the body count: civilians, livestock, everything they could find, to inflate the total of "NVA/VC".

Steve

Hello Steve,

The information from their lawyer Todd Pomereau is "incomplete."

That story you linked quotes Pomereau as having said "several have work authorizations." So let's say that means at most 4 or 5 might have legal work authorizations (although we actually don't know that since no details are provided).

Didn't the manager of the car wash claim they all had work authorizations or green cards in their "lockers"?

And of course they all have immigration cases NOW. Because Pommereau has filed habeas corpus petitions for them.

Still-why no I-9s? Why didn't Todd get a court order to access their work lockers? Todd is a well known attorney in Massachusetts, very skilled at immigration, he could have gotten a court order quickly.

No doubt the attorney will burn up every penny in legal fees that he can get from his clients and their families, making it a cause celebre so possibly get additional funding from NGOs and go fund mes.

He will use up every penny, then they will be deported.

Clearly, if as wzambon kept explaining to me, their green cards and work authorizations were in their work lockers, wouldn't the cheapest and quickest way to resolve things be....for their attorney to get the documents from their employer, and provide those proofs to the government???

It's a car wash. They were all working off the books, possibly. NO I-9s, no green cards, no work authorizations, there is nothing at all in their lockers. Possibly expired green cards and work authorizations, or docs that are defective for other reasons (such as fraud or misrepresentation when they applied for them).

Even Todd admitted, best case scenario, "several" of them supposedly have proper documents. That means "several" don't.

Even if theoretically all 9 have seemingly valid work authorizations and/or green cards, working off the books--if that is what happened--makes them deportable.

Clearly, if as wzambon kept explaining to me, their green cards and work authorizations were in their work lockers, wouldn't the cheapest and quickest way to resolve things be....for their attorney to get the documents from their employer, and provide those proofs to the government???

I can theorize plenty: ICE cleaned out their lockers as "evidence", or sealed the lockers, so no-one else could open them. If ICE wanted to meet it's quota, grab their dox, and hide them, so the lawyer can't get them. I doubt an I-9 would really prove anything, as the information given could be declared "fake".

That state may have a privacy law that prevents an employer searching an employee's locker, so the relatives picked up the stuff, then gave it to the lawyer.

I don't see anyone prosecuting the owner or manager of the car wash for employing "illegals", or employing them off the books to cheat on taxes.

We can parse the language in the reports we read all day.

Best bet is see what happens at the habeas hearing, if ICE shows up, if the detainees are still in the country.

Steve

Clearly, if as wzambon kept explaining to me, their green cards and work authorizations were in their work lockers, wouldn't the cheapest and quickest way to resolve things be....for their attorney to get the documents from their employer, and provide those proofs to the government???

I can theorize plenty: ICE cleaned out their lockers as "evidence", or sealed the lockers, so no-one else could open them. If ICE wanted to meet it's quota, grab their dox, and hide them, so the lawyer can't get them. I doubt an I-9 would really prove anything, as the information given could be declared "fake".

Yah, if you read around, some claim a couple were in process, but all were supposed to have work permits. The owner says he will get them to keep them on their person because one fellow they took was screaming his papers were in his locker. ICE didn't care - keep those numbers up, but we don't know what they are anyway, so they can make them up if they want. The owner said his customers were terrified by ICE. And now we have Fed fellow who says negative immigration will lower inflation. Go figure.

Their attorney is no longer claiming that any of his clients were either lawfully in the u.s. or lawfully working here. Simply that he would seek to enforce their due process rights.

This sounds like it was an I-9 raid. It will possibly turn out that they were all working off the books.

Watch this go into the memory hole soon.

Why wouldn’t the goons...

Call them what they are: the ICE gestapo. "Your papers, please."

Seems like a reasonable person...

You're talking MAGA and the ICE gestapo. In the ven diagram, you'll get very little overlap between them and "reasonable person".

You're talking MAGA and the ICE gestapo. In the ven diagram, you'll get very little overlap between them and "reasonable person". <?i>

I understand and agree on that, but:

1. The other side needs to be exposed to the reasonable person that most courts use, and that a strict literal interpretation is almost never the case, and that courts use a reasonable person standard,

2. This needs to filter down to ICE. They got the money to help sort through, release, deport, and give brief due process where it's due. We don't need people suing the government because their work permit was in a locker next to them. Even if you want to take them, let them get the dox.

3. I haven't been hearing enough about this, but I think the bad stuff is still going on. Too much emphasis on numbers.

I'm confused why anti-ICE protestors seem not to grasp that if they impede ICE operations in any unlawful way--and this would include passively blocking them from doing their jobs, loudly shouting in their faces, etc., as these create dangerous distractions--they are themselves subject to arrest or detention, even if they are legally in the USA, and even if they are US citizens.

I'm also confused as to why they do not seem to understand that if a detainee happens to be with a child at the time they are detained, they don't get to take the child with them. Nor is the presence of a child an immunization against detention or arrest.

Perhaps it's because they listen to Democrat politicians and ProGlibs, who are frequently on the news engaging in illegal interference with ICE operations?

In any event we have heard absolutely zero additional from the attorney for the 9 Allston Car Wash Ice detainees.

As I predicted, that story served its anti-Trump purpose, and is now being flushed down the memory hole.

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