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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Unbelievable
Date: 02/22/2024 3:48 AM
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Yes,Smirnov's contribution to the GOPs revenge impeachment effort was, and is, literally unbelievable. Yet these 10 GOP leaders swallowed it hook line and sinker.


Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.)

June: “This is an impeachable document. President Biden should be impeached. Secondly, he should be prosecuted. This is unbelievable. It’s a pay-to-play scheme. He took a bribe from a foreign national in a foreign country that paid millions of dollars. He needs to be prosecuted for this, and I would argue that he should serve jail time.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/21...


Drip Drip Drip, flush.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/22/2024 9:12 AM
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literally unbelievable.

Do you really think any of this reality gets through to the hard core MAGAs? They don't even get to hear it if they stay ensorcelled by the RW propaganda machine.
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Author: weatherman   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/23/2024 10:01 PM
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simple reason the GOP pols are never worried about being dumb shills.
MAGA supporters are even dumber.

pre-trump, most of MAGA nation kept to their preferred culture, but found a golden calf to worship.
the best hope for america is the return of MAGA political apathy. maybe repeated resounding losses can fix it.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/24/2024 10:26 AM
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the best hope for america is the return of MAGA political apathy. maybe repeated resounding losses can fix it.

The right has worked long and hard to rig the system is such a way as they don't have to have the support of the majority. They have mastered gerrymandering. They've managed to dominate many state legislatures, even in some very purple states. They've stacked the courts. And for presidential contests they have the sweet advantage of the electoral college.

And a huge advantage is an ill-informed base and a lying right wing media machine to keep that base constantly enraged and motivated such that they will happily vote against their own real interests.
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Author: weatherman   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/24/2024 10:59 AM
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i agree. despite the obama years, democrats have been outplayed at several levels since clinton. failure to imagine many GOP tactics is blame.

it is for this reason that a media outlets like The Atlantic took responsibility for 2016,2020 failures, and released an entire issue on the dire threat of a trump win. not many have followed.

what is missing is how independents will do. since they poll unreliably, and avoid politics in general up until the day effort is put into voting, all you can go on is how they actually voted. and the last ~4 cycles have been anti-GOP. is it possible for the GOP losses to be so lopsided that MAGA returns to non-political activities? can trump bring about a full disintegration of the GOP, since they are rudderless without his whims?
i dont worry much about another cult-like icon emerging post-Trump.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/24/2024 12:31 PM
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The right has worked long and hard to rig the system is such a way as they don't have to have the support of the majority. They have mastered gerrymandering. They've managed to dominate many state legislatures, even in some very purple states. - ges,/I>

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Nice. Laying the foundation for the upcoming loss. Biden policy perfection offset by Republican skullduggery. Don't forget to re-activate the Russia collusion hoax. Oh right, you already have.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/24/2024 12:49 PM
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bhm: "Don't forget to re-activate the Russia collusion hoax. Oh right, you already have."

Smirnov's lying is not about Russian meddling in the 2016 elections.

Smirnov "concocted "fabrications" about President Biden and his son accepting $5 million in bribes from the Ukrainian energy giant Burisma -- which Republicans have repeatedly cited as a driving force in their efforts to impeach the president."

Are you of the belief that that new information about Smirnov is 'fake news'?

If you know it's not fake news, then how do you dismiss the impact of Smirnov's lies, and the failure of extreme right wing senators and congresspersons to acknowledge the gravity of this development?
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/24/2024 1:00 PM
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the best hope for america is the return of MAGA political apathy. maybe repeated resounding losses can fix it.

The right has worked long and hard to rig the system is such a way as they don't have to have the support of the majority.


This is very true. From rigged requirements for voting, to gerrymandering state districts, to the number of polling places in certain areas, etc., etc., etc.,

They have mastered gerrymandering. They've managed to dominate many state legislatures, even in some very purple states. They've stacked the courts. And for presidential contests they have the sweet advantage of the electoral college.

True. And there is so much energy and strategy devoted to this, and the base denies that it is there. It has been a constant over the years that some people are better at governing than others and they should be allowed to govern. There is no real belief in democracy. The distrust of the government back east was present when the midwest and west were settled and has never left.

And a huge advantage is an ill-informed base and a lying right wing media machine to keep that base constantly enraged and motivated such that they will happily vote against their own real interests.

Resentment is feature to be manipulated. Get them to resent, which can become anger and hate. So they will go into college campuses where some social experiments are going on and amplify it as if this is being foisted on the general public, and you can present bills filed to appeal to some niche group as if those northerners, those back easter elites are going to foist this on us. Rally round the flag and protect family values. Dirty nasty raping terrorist hordes are coming across the border to defile our wonderful white women, mix with our pure white genes, bring that Muslim barbarity, and then out baby us and outvote us. And somehow all that leads to a celebration that taxes are reduced on corporations - go figure.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/24/2024 1:28 PM
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BHMNice. Laying the foundation for the upcoming loss. Biden policy perfection offset by Republican skullduggery. Don't forget to re-activate the Russia collusion hoax. Oh right, you already have.

When we win it's against the odds. :) Republican already have an advantage in the electoral college. We don't see any Republicans saying, "let's not gerrymander or restrict the vote in any way, let's win on our record and policies." However, if I've missed it, please point it out.

Excuse me, but The Biden Crime Family Hoax brought out that a Russian disinformation campaign was aimed to be funneled through the FBI. Definitely aids Trump. Can't be reversed, and it underscores it's very highly likely Russian Collusion wasn't a hoax.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/24/2024 3:35 PM
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Biden is far from perfect, but he is light-years ahead of Trump in terms of quality and competence. Alas, even though he has accomplished a lot, the public isn't aware of a lot of it (it's "behind the scenes" stuff that people don't really see, but they feel it indirectly). And he's not very energizing.

The primary energizer is Trump. It is ironic that I think Dems will have to rely on his energizing opposition to him for Biden to win. I'm pretty sure that was the dynamic in 2020. Another Rep candidate might have won had Trump not been in the picture, but too many people were horrified at the prospect of another 4 years of the farcical Trump circus. I know I am, and a lot of Republicans are too (like Cheney...she's a strong conservative, and completely against Trump).

I don't think the IVF thing will cost Trump any votes. Vangies have no choice. They can't vote for Satan...errr...Biden. So it's Trump. From what he's said about abortion, I'm sure Mike is not put off by that. And he's -almost assuredly- not alone in that.

So Trump is going to have to scare the independents enough for them to come out in force and vote against him.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/24/2024 4:57 PM
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Dirty nasty raping terrorist hordes are coming across the border to defile our wonderful white women = lapsody

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The parents of LAKEN RILEY, and one or two hundred million US citizens, would say not all of them, but too damn many of them for sure. And whatever vetting is done is not to protecting us...


The suspect charged in connection to the murder of a 22-year-old Georgia nursing student has been confirmed as an illegal immigrant originally from Venezuela, Fox News Digital has learned.

26-year-old Jose Antonio Ibarra, the suspect charged in the murder of nursing student Laken Riley on the University of Georgia campus, is a Venezuelan national who crossed illegally into El Paso, Texas, in September 2022 & was released into the U.S. via parole, three ICE & DHS sources told Fox News.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/24/2024 9:35 PM
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BHM:The parents of LAKEN RILEY, and one or two hundred million US citizens, would say not all of them, but too damn many of them for sure. And whatever vetting is done is not to protecting us..

C'mon now Mike, illegal immigrants have NO VETTING. And...

Abstract
We make use of uniquely comprehensive arrest data from the Texas Department of Public Safety to compare the criminality of undocumented immigrants to legal immigrants and native-born US citizens between 2012 and 2018. We find that [Texas] undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, US-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes. In addition, the proportion of arrests involving undocumented immigrants in Texas was relatively stable or decreasing over this period. The differences between US-born citizens and undocumented immigrants are robust to using alternative estimates of the broader undocumented population, alternate classifications of those counted as “undocumented” at arrest and substituting misdemeanors or convictions as measures of crime.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

We need to be protected from USians Mike.



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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Unbelievable
Date: 02/25/2024 11:19 AM
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For those of you who do not dwell on every lurid story of crimes against young white women(the number 1 topic on Fox News, eclipsed only by BREAKING Hunter Biden sex/drugs stories)....

Bhm's cause du jour is the full page splasher Fox is using this week to titilate and enrage its audience. It's supported by the usual thumbs of photos of scantilly clad young women, erectile dysfunction products, crimes by people of color, and stories sure to get a rise out of white christian nationalists everywhere.

FOX full front page:
Laken Riley's final jogging route before student was allegedly murdered by illegal immigrant
UGA SLAYING SCENE
SEE IT: Laken Riley's final jogging route before student was allegedly murdered by illegal immigrant



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