Here's to both men for being decent so far.

Well, decent by your tribal modern shitty cultural standards.

Trump had to be forced to shake hands with Harris.

Hillary refused to shake hands with Trump.

Last debate Trump wouldn't even look at Harris when she spoke.

At least these two are doing that much. It's not your typical American Sunni vs Shia demeanor.

When I watch the older debates (as early ad a few days ago) it was non tribal. Clinton, Dole, Bush, Clinton, Perot---yeah it was nasty dirty politics but the men would shake, chat. Even the families would talk afterwards.

But hey, there's no "culture" problem.

*giggle* the culture and tribal punishment has gotta be obvious to even the Smuggest TMF deniers. If not, oh well it's not reversing! :)

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