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Author: BreckHutHigh   😊 😞
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Subject: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 06/29/2024 1:18 PM
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"Warren Buffett confirmed on Friday that he planned to donate the vast majority of his wealth to a new foundation led by his three children when he dies, ending a long history of donating to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

The billionaire chief executive of Berkshire Hathaway reiterated to The Wall Street Journal that his children Susie, Howard and Peter Buffett would be the trustees of the new foundation, which will receive one of the largest wealth infusions of all time when he passes away."

https://www.ft.com/content/b3f6a9d5-99f1-4881-861c...

Perhaps Warren doesn't think as highly of Bill Gates as he once did.

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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 06/29/2024 3:50 PM
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" Perhaps Warren doesn't think as highly of Bill Gates as he once did."

Buffett did it in a respectful way, as always. Watch what he does, he can be a man of few words at times.
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 06/29/2024 4:02 PM
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" Perhaps Warren doesn't think as highly of Bill Gates as he once did."
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Buffett did it in a respectful way, as always. Watch what he does, he can be a man of few words at times.


Personally I think it has more to do with Melinda not being there than it does with Bill still being there.* Her departure is the recent news, after all.

I think he liked the original tag team management setup at BMG. The official condition was merely that at least one of them "remain alive and active in the policy-setting and administration", but I suspect he preferred two to one, the dynamic duo.

Jim

* Plus of course the evident desire to have his kids run a new foundation.
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 06/29/2024 5:47 PM
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Perhaps Warren doesn't think as highly of Bill Gates as he once did.

Maybe he just likes what his kids have done on a smaller scale in the interleaving time. And maybe he doesn’t like that Melissa is no longer involved. No way to tell, really, but the Gates Foundation still has plenty of shekels to deal.
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Author: Texirish 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 06/29/2024 6:32 PM
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* Plus of course the evident desire to have his kids run a new foundation.

For;, what it worth, that's my take away from the new will as well.

I think Warren wants the family control of BRK's culture and voting control to continue as long as possible. Devoting what shares he has remaining when he passes to his children's control - whereby ending the Gates Foundation contributions - is the surest way to do do. No further dilution.

He's not backing away from his promises after his first wife passed. He's just ending it when they're kept.

As an aside, I raised the question with friends if this might permit removing purchases of Microsoft from the "forbidden" list? Buffett did so because, like Caesars wife, he wanted to be "above suspicion" in terms of not profiting from any inside info from Bill Gates.

The feedback I got is - not now. That might instead happen after Warren passes.

I can understand Warren's position. But MST could have been a large and rewarding investment over the years had Warren not been so concerned about any hint of such. That's part of having WEB as CEO.
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Author: Munger_Disciple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 06/29/2024 7:15 PM
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I think Warren wants the family control of BRK's culture and voting control to continue as long as possible. Devoting what shares he has remaining when he passes to his children's control - whereby ending the Gates Foundation contributions - is the surest way to do do. No further dilution.

100% agree. I believe Warren's thinking has evolved with respect to Berkshire's future after him. He doesn't want Berkshire's voting control to be in the hands of index fund CEOS like Fink after he is gone. This is the surest way to ensure that doesn't happen.
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Author: WEBspired   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 06/29/2024 9:26 PM
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“I think Warren wants the family control of BRK's culture and voting control to continue as long as possible. Devoting what shares he has remaining when he passes to his children's control”

Totally agree. As much as both Warren and his generous and thoughtful children are pleased to have the ownership power and control stay within the Buffett family, I imagine that Berkshire itself- its health and culture, it’s employees and the financial well-being and web of deserved trust given to him for 7 decades by family, friends and individual owners like ourselves are the Very highest of priorities in this decision making. And of course all the enormous good his compounded and amazing life’s work will provide humanity in ways we can only imagine. Bless you Warren for always thinking about us partners in these enormous personal decisions.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 06/29/2024 9:32 PM
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What are the sell plans after he passes ? Is the new plan subject to an 8 k filing ? I can't find it, thank you.
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Author: Umm 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 06/30/2024 6:59 AM
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"* Plus of course the evident desire to have his kids run a new foundation."

I think this is a reflection of how much his children (especially Howard) have embraced the philanthropy role the past few years. They have always been involved to some degree, but it seems the past few years that Howard has pushed it to a higher gear. He always had enough other "hobbies" to keep him busy, but it seems lately that he has moved more and more into philanthropy and running his Foundation.

I think Warren has recognized this.
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Author: weatherman   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 08/22/2024 9:49 AM
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this 'gates\buffett' feud stinks of QAnon-type garbage. what has warren actually said about bill?

first, if gates is such an undesirable character, isn't it warren's credo never to associate with those types in the first place?
or was warren being the opportunist?

lastly,
it was gates that initiated warren into the entire structured philanthropy concept, and should get some credit when warren's kids inevitably surpass the gates foundation in giving.

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Author: sykesix 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 08/22/2024 12:09 PM
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this 'gates\buffett' feud stinks of QAnon-type garbage. what has warren actually said about bill?

It seems the relationship has cooled a bit, but I agree this is a bit nuts. Buffett just donated $4 billion to the Gates Foundation last month.

Sometimes the simplest explanations are best: Buffett wants his children to continue his charitable giving after his death. Which is what he said.
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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/07/2024 5:48 PM
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ELON:

https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1843381363099271...
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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/07/2024 9:14 PM
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Elon just put a BIG spotlight on Bill Gates.

JUST IN: Elon Musk tells Tucker Carlson the reason Kamala Harris is getting so much support from some billionaires is because Trump will release the Epstein Client list.
Elon: Some of those billionaires behind Kamala are terrified of a Trump win.
Tucker: Do you think Reid Hoffman's uncomfortable?
Elon: Yes and Gates.
Tucker: You can sort, you just look at them, and you're like, 'that's a nervous person right there.'
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Author: VIIIandXX   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/07/2024 9:39 PM
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No worries for the billionaires. Trump won’t have time for them. He needs to fix the abortion these scum sucking liars have made of our country!!!
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Author: hummingbird   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/08/2024 10:32 AM
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i would not believe a word from Musk. He has consistently proven himself to be unreliable and inconsistent , and those are the most inoffensive words I can t


I hope the epstein lists are published , but I doubt Trump will be the one doing it.
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Author: YoungandOld   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/08/2024 12:27 PM
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It is a great joy to come to this board and find it so focused on substantive content and not filled with political bait posts. Every once in a while, I get a glimpse into that alternative reality because I poster I haven't blocked comments on a thread created by someone who I have blocked. Then, I am given this glimpse into a crazy thread that I was blissfully ignorant of. When I get the glimpse, I am mostly grateful to Manlobbi for giving me the ability to be blinded to the crazy of it all.

For those of you who haven't done so, I really encourage you to consider using the ignore button. Silence and lack of reaction to their posts sucks the oxygen out of crazy, while engagement of any kind just feeds the energy. I am all for curiosity and hearing the other side, but certain folks have long gone past the border of informative, engaging dialogue.
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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/08/2024 6:55 PM
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Yes. Ignore Elon Musk. He has no platform, reach or credibility.
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/09/2024 5:02 AM
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He has no platform, reach or credibility.

I dunno, I figure he definitely has non-zero amounts of all three.
Positive amounts of platform and reach, and a negative amount of credibility : )

Jim
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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/21/2024 9:41 PM
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More confirmation of what Berenson-Taibbi and others have been saying. These people are jackals and hyenas. They intentionally suppressed all adverse vaccine discussions. Bill Gates is at the nexus. Who is the "threat to Democracy"?


https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1848404379956633...
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Author: knighttof3   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/22/2024 1:55 AM
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More confirmation of what Berenson-Taibbi and others have been saying. These people are jackals and hyenas. They intentionally suppressed all adverse vaccine discussions. Bill Gates is at the nexus. Who is the "threat to Democracy"?


If you look for confirmation of your pre-existing iseas, you can always get tgat on the Internet.
How about trying to disprove your own idea? If you can't, then it's a strong indicator that you are right.
Be
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Author: knighttof3   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/22/2024 1:59 AM
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Sorry, fat fingers.

.... Before vaccines, the Covid death rate was pretty high, especially for seniors and those with comorbidities. After vaccines, it seems to have improved (per capita, not total).
No doubt other factors like virus mutations contributed.
At the very least there is no evidence that vaccines caused harm. So don't believe some random on the Internet (except Jim, occasionally).
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Author: ciao8   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/22/2024 1:20 PM
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Check out the FT daily graph of world COVID daily deaths & ask yourself what this would look like in the absence of vaccines.

https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c...

ciao
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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/25/2024 5:00 PM
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Bill Gates Must Face Vaccine-Injured in Netherlands Court
Netherlands judge rules that Bill Gates must face seven people injured by COVID-19 vaccines in court in the Netherlands. Albert Bourla, CEO of Pfizer, is another defendant.
JOHN LEAKE
OCT 25



Children’s Health Defense reporter Michael Nevradakis just published the only serious coverage I can find of the remarkable fact that Bill Gates has been summoned to a Dutch court, where he is being sued by seven vaccine-injured plaintiffs for making false and misleading statements about COVID-19 vaccines.

My goodness, Gates’s public image has come a long way since 1998, when he was widely presented in the American media as the most ruthless monopolist since John D. Rockefeller. To get a sense of his penchant for petulant arrogance back then, check out the following video of his deposition to a DoJ investigator in the U.S. v. Microsoft antitrust case.


Like John D. Rockefeller, Gates cleaned up his public image by starting a Foundation whose official mission is to promote public health. This reminds me of Robin Williams’s standup joke back in the eighties that “President Reagan’s appointment of James Watt to Secretary of Interior is like having Charles Manson as a male nurse.”

Back at the turn of the 21st century, Gates was widely regarded as a creep. Now I cannot find a single mainstream media reference to his legal trouble in the Netherlands.

It reminds me of the Columbia Journalism Review feature in 2020 Journalism’s Gates keepers. Clearly most MSM reporters and their editors and producers are indistinguishable from prostitutes, though the comparison is probably unfair to sex workers, who don’t pretend to be something else.
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/26/2024 4:29 AM
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Now I cannot find a single mainstream media reference to his legal trouble in the Netherlands.

Did you consider all of the possible reasons for this?
Purely as a random example, that it might not be true?

I am not saying it isn't true, though like you I could find no credible source of confirmation. I'm just pointing out the advantages of not being too credulous about claims bolstering conspiracy theories.

Jim

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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/26/2024 6:41 AM
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"Did you consider all of the possible reasons for this?
Purely as a random example, that it might not be true?"


Did you realize who you were talking to? Given their posting history, what makes you think they would possibly think rationally about this subject>
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/26/2024 6:49 AM
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" Was Bill Gates criminally indicted in the Netherlands in October 2024 for his role in the COVID-19 pandemic? No, that's not true: A Dutch judge only ruled that the case can be heard in the Netherlands because one plaintiff lives in the region covered by the court. This is a civil lawsuit, as court records show, and, therefore, it doesn't include any criminal indictments.

The claim appeared in a post (archived here) on X, formerly known as Twitter, on October 23, 2024. It said:"

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2024/10/act-che...
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/26/2024 6:57 AM
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and this,

https://loudobbs.com/news/bill-gates-ordered-to-st...
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/26/2024 8:07 AM
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what makes you think they would possibly think rationally about this subject?

Hey, I'm an optimist. Anyone can improve.

Besides, if my optimism doesn't work out, we can always prove conclusively that hclasvegas murders people using satanic chicken bones, if we merely name him in a lawsuit alleging that and get a blogger to write about it.

Jim
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/26/2024 8:11 AM
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hclasvegas murders people using satanic chicken bones

These links prove it!
https://www.shrewdm.com/MB?pid=993956826
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reporting
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/26/2024 8:48 AM
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" Besides, if my optimism doesn't work out, we can always prove conclusively that hclasvegas murders people using satanic chicken bones, if we merely name him in a lawsuit alleging that and get a blogger to write about it.

Jim"

mornin jim, while you were napping things between Buffett and Gates have changed, dramatically. No reasonable adult would dispute that fact. I was never much for Kool Aid old friend, enjoy the day. Off to the park.
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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 10/28/2024 9:05 AM
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RFK Jr. just implied that Bill Gates donated $50 million to Kamala’s campaign because he knows he will be indicted if Trump wins

“He’s been indicted in the Netherlands for lying to the public about the Covid vaccine and he’s gonna have to go to trial. You think that he wants to go to trial here in the United States of America?

You think maybe that’s one of the reasons he chose to give $50 million to Kamala Harris?”

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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 11/08/2024 8:50 AM
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https://x.com/OdessaOrlewicz/status/18547241633424...

BOOM
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 11/08/2024 9:12 AM
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You are aware that this isn't Twitter?

Posting a naked link without explanation isn't considered the polite thing to do here, and off topic posts should generally be marked as such.
No need to be so cranky, Charlie : )

Jim
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 11/08/2024 10:01 AM
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" Posting a naked link without explanation isn't considered the polite thing to do here, and off topic posts should generally be marked as such.
No need to be so cranky, Charlie : )"

good morning jim, Buffett's relationship with Gates is certainly on topic on this board for many of us old timers. For those who prefer to remain in denial, that's your right. I would post that photo of the three monkeys, hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil, but I don't know how. Park time, have a grand day all!
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Subject: Re: Bye Bye Gates Foundation
Date: 11/08/2024 10:58 AM
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good morning jim, Buffett's relationship with Gates is certainly on topic on this board for many of us old timers. For those who prefer to remain in denial, that's your right.

The point is that naked links are mostly useless. Add your commentary about it, even if only one sentence. The same goes for endlessly posting naked links to SEC filings. We all get automated notifications and/or emails when our favorite companies have an SEC filing. So getting a random SEC link here, with no commentary about it, is mostly useless.
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