Personal Finance Topics / Macroeconomic Trends and Risks
No. of Recommendations: 8
Farmers who got suckered into voting for Trump, are soon going to find out that the narcissist doesn't care about them, only about himself.
"U.S. farm industry groups want President-elect Donald Trump to spare their sector from his promise of mass deportations, which could upend a food supply chain heavily dependent on immigrants in the United States illegally.
Nearly half of US farm workers lack legal status. Mass removal of farm workers would shock the food supply chain and
drive consumer grocery prices higher, said David Ortega, a professor of food economics and policy at Michigan State University."
Reuters:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-farm-groups-wa... Dave Puglia, the president and CEO of the Western Growers Association, called the prospect of [immigration] sweeps on farms “very troubling.”
These MAGA farmers could be ruined if Trump follows through with mass deportationshttps://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/26/californi...
No. of Recommendations: 2
Thanks for posting this. LM lives in a small town AG area and is unaware of the illegals in her area.
No. of Recommendations: 3
I guess I would have to know what they mean by MAGA farmers. I know a couple of small farmers, and they use very little hired labor. They farm plots of land: some they own outright, some they lease, some they share-crop (split revenue with landowner) and they are not contiguous. Was a revelation to me, but they are “small farmers.” (Still impressive, buying million dollar combines and paying subscriptions for custom weather forecasts and softwares for fertilization and such. Yet still “small”, by any definition.)
I suspect that most of the illegals are employed by mega corporations, not really “MAGA farmers.” As such the small farmer would be happy to get rid of them, as it would increase costs for their competitors - if not decimate them entirely - and overall raise prices. A good thing if you are a farmer, a bad thing if you are a Trump supporter complaining about, say, the price of eggs.
Anyway, I am struck by the imprecision of the headline, and think the “small MAGA farmer” could get exactly what they voted for. The big guys, who threw in large political contributions, maybe not.
No. of Recommendations: 1
Something good actually could come out of this. Immigration reform. The AG sector is large enough that they could push for that. Of course, they would still want to underpay them and abuse them. But they would suffer tremendously if that workforce is removed, which would motivate them to support some sort of worker visa program (likely with exemptions from federal minimum wage, but it's still progress).
No. of Recommendations: 1
which would motivate them to support some sort of worker visa program (likely with exemptions from federal minimum wage, but it's still progress). - 1pg
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Agree, that is a practical, and reasonable approach to the migrant worker issue. But timing wise, it should be added to the list of proposed reforms, some call "comprehensive immigration reform". The problems arise when boarder security is commingled with immigration reform. They are different thing but you cannot have reforms without effective security. Otherwise, rules whatever they are or may become, cannot be enforced.
Ultimately every present day illegal alien will be deported or will have obtained some sort of legal status that grants them the privilege of being here either temporarily with enforced end dates or on a permanent status short of actual citizenship.
But first things first, close the border. Lets avoid the "somebody will always get in" diversion. Put it this way, 99% of would be entrants are stopped at the border, and actually vetted no matter how long it takes (the applicant always has the option of voluntarily leaving whenever they want to, the good ol' USA will even buy you a plane ticket).
Regarding the 1% that get through (present day gottaways). I have every confidence Honan will track down most of them. There still will remain a few that can't be located but these types will sooner or later surface when they are arrested for other crimes their lifestyle demands.
The point is border security is a national security risk and a crime problem rolled into one. By securing the border first, the public will see immediate benefit and become more supportive of reforms later when they know that criteria for entrance are enforceable. How will they know? They see it, every day in some fashion, with their own eyes (that is if they watch Fox News, MSNBC not so much, sorry, couldn't help myself)
No. of Recommendations: 4
I think you have it somewhat backwards, Mike. If you have a sensible immigration/migrant system, there is less need for border security because people will opt for the less-risky legal system. Right now, we have a seriously contorted system, so it's easier to just dash across the border than wait potentially decades to get your case heard (my SIL is still waiting after 10 years...she's doing it legally).
Of course, this is just a broad stroke. There are all the nuances about asylum that we discussed 10 or so months ago, and the various treaty obligations that entails. Last I knew, that was the majority of people streaming across our border. Not workers trying to remain undetected.
No. of Recommendations: 4
But they would suffer tremendously if that workforce is removed, which would motivate them to support some sort of worker visa program (likely with exemptions from federal minimum wage, but it's still progress). Project 2025 is proposing that as aid programs for the poor and homeless are reduced or eliminated, Americans will become agriculture's labor force.
Page 7...First day and first year reforms.
https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLead...
No. of Recommendations: 10
"Project 2025 is proposing that as aid programs for the poor and homeless are reduced or eliminated, Americans will become agriculture's labor force."
Can't wait to see it. But I'm wondering if people realize the breakdown of welfare recipients
in America. Quick search, results are a little dated, but should still be representative:
https://www.google.com/search?q=breakdown+of+ameri... "Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)
In 2020, the racial breakdown of SNAP recipients was:
Non-Hispanic White: 44.6% of adult recipients and 31.5% of child recipients
Black: 27% of both adult and child recipients
Hispanic: 21.9% of adult recipients and 35.8% of child recipients "
I will be looking for the pale skin and red caps out in the broiling summer sun next year. Should be in the range of half of the workers in the fields.
I applaud them for voting in this cleansing of their slothful ways #sarcasm
No. of Recommendations: 2
Project 2025 is proposing that as aid programs for the poor and homeless are reduced or eliminated, Americans will become agriculture's labor force.
You can make $20/hr. working fast food, and that is a MUCH easier gig. Yet for some reason, these "deadbeats" choose not to do that. The 2025 proposal shows a complete lack of understanding of the issues.
No. of Recommendations: 8
I will be looking for the pale skin and red caps out in the broiling summer sun next year. Should be in the range of half of the workers in the fields.
But hey, at least the imaginary gender reassignment surgery in public schools will be stopped!
As will the imaginary eating of dogs and cats!
