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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48495 
Subject: A Union Job In A Red State!?
Date: 04/24/2024 10:14 AM
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What's next Red States? Healthcare? A decent education? Women controlling their own bodies!?

"UAW wins big in historic union vote at Volkswagen Tennessee factory.
The landslide win will make the Chattanooga factory the first auto plant in the South to unionize via election since the 1940s and the first foreign-owned auto plant in the South to do so."

"Jubilant workers, some in tears, raised their arms in victory and held aloft Union Yes posters as the final tally came in."

Of course Republicans hated it, "Tennessee Republican Gov. Bill Lee said Monday that he thinks workers at a Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga made "a big mistake" by voting to unionize.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tennessees-repub...

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportat...
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A Union Job In A Red State!?
Date: 05/15/2024 9:11 AM
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Republicans say Not in Alabama!

"A bill that would effectively prevent voluntary recognition of unions passed the Senate floor Tuesday.
The bill, SB 231, passed 23-5."

The GOP: keeping people poor since 1932!

https://alabamareflector.com/briefs/alabama-senate...
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A Union Job In A Red State!?
Date: 05/15/2024 11:01 AM
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I'm not sure what the Alabama vote means. At the end of the article it talked about perma-temps. So how does not recognizing the Union even if there's a signed labor agreement result in perma-temps? And brings up economic incentives. I'm a little confused at what's going on. Can anyone explain this to me?
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A Union Job In A Red State!?
Date: 05/15/2024 11:41 AM
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Lapsody: "I'm a little confused at what's going on. Can anyone explain this to me?"

Basically the GOP is once again trying to stop folks from Unionizing.

Here's another article maybe this one is a bit clearer.

"The new law punishes businesses that choose to voluntarily recognize unions by forbidding them from receiving any grants, loans, or tax credits from state and local governments."

"It disenfranchises and demeans Alabama’s workers who want the freedom to improve their workplaces and their lives. And it also strips business owners of their freedoms by limiting how they choose to conduct their labor relations."

https://www.alreporter.com/2024/05/15/afl-cio-crit...
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A Union Job In A Red State!?
Date: 05/15/2024 12:28 PM
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"The new law punishes businesses that choose to voluntarily recognize unions by forbidding them from receiving any grants, loans, or tax credits from state and local governments."

"It disenfranchises and demeans Alabama’s workers who want the freedom to improve their workplaces and their lives. And it also strips business owners of their freedoms by limiting how they choose to conduct their labor relations."


Thanks, that's a lot clearer. Couple that with they made an exception for those already unionized and the comment about perma-temps and the picture shows they are trying to kill future unions and wanting the current ones to die off. The union I was in was worthless where I was, but I heard it was very good in other areas of the US. I am not against unions at all. Where my union functioned well they were able to get managers transferred out that had difficult personalities.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A Union Job In A Red State!?
Date: 05/15/2024 5:31 PM
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Where my union functioned well they were able to get managers transferred out that had difficult personalities. - Lapsody

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The problem is some unions prevent the firing of marginal employees by establish an endless chain of appeals for the poor worker who just wants to a little work as possible and still receive a paycheck?

Then there are unions who move beyond working conditions for member and want to start running the company. Example the NEA moved beyond working conditions for teachers and inserted itself into setting educational policy. The Chicago teachers union went even further with their new contract demands to set political policies outside the boundaries of education, eg divesting from Israel or promoting UBI.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A Union Job In A Red State!?
Date: 05/15/2024 11:48 PM
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The problem is some unions prevent the firing of marginal employees by establish an endless chain of appeals


I've heard it all.

hen there are unions who move beyond working conditions for member and want to start running the company. Example the NEA moved beyond working conditions for teachers and inserted itself into setting educational policy. The Chicago teachers union went even further with their new contract demands to set political policies outside the boundaries of education, eg divesting from Israel or promoting UBI.

I actually don't think there's anything wrong with teachers having a say in educational policy, but I think the teacher's should vote if they want to get involved on that. If the teachers have a vote on divesting from Israel, etc.,, and know the impact, that's up to them. Europe seems to do well with Unions so we should look at their practices.
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