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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 8:31 AM
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for the deep thinkers and the usual suspects. https://rumble.com/v4aworc-jan-6th-bomb-threat-exp...
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Author: very stable genius   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 8:54 AM
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HC:"for the deep thinkers and the usual suspects. https://rumble.com/v4aworc-jan-6th-bomb-threat-exp..."

Morning HC! Deep thinkers don't use "Rumble" as a source of information. Rumble is for conspiracy theorists...

"Overall, we rate Rumble Right Biased and Questionable based on the promotion of right-wing propaganda and conspiracy theories and false information, use of poor sources, and a lack of transparency."
Reasoning: Propaganda, Conspiracy, Poor Sourcing, False Information, Lack of Transparency
Bias Rating: FAR-RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW

Have a great day Bud!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rumble/
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 9:28 AM
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good morning genius, keep getting all your info from the fair and balanced NYT and msnbc old bud!! Watch the interview at least try to understand what us conspiracy nuts are hearing these days. Stay well. https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-time...
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 9:30 AM
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I love some of you kids. https://www.allsides.com/news-source/msnbc
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Author: very stable genius   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 9:42 AM
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HC: I love some of you kids. https://www.allsides.com/news-source/msnbc

Hey Bud, I don't use MSNBC.
But I'm proud of you for doing a media bias check! Way to go, keep it up!

Enjoy your day!
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 9:54 AM
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Do you trust the latest poll from nbc or should I check NBC for media bias? You need a website to tell you who has been spreading misinformation the past 8 years? Really? Come on man, how did a brkb shareholder lose his way ? 🍿🍿
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 10:07 AM
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do you trust this source ? https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/biden...
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 11:52 AM
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hclasvegas, you asked vsg about trusting NBC, here is what MBFC has to say about NBC News, indicating that NBC can be trusted unlike those biased liars at Faux News.

From MBFC,

LEFT-CENTER BIAS

These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Overall, we rate NBC News Left-Center biased based on story selection and word choices that moderately favor the left and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a reasonable fact check record.


SO when NBC Poll says Biden down 20 points, that forces the libs to face an uncomfortable truth.

Now if Fox Conducted a poll,

Fox News Headline,

Fox News Poll: Biden trails Trump by 20 points on the economy as his approval ratings plummet

Despite a growing economy and little opposition to his party’s nomination, President Joe Biden confronts a dissatisfied electorate in the new national Fox News poll.....

The liberal reaction would be, "What BS coming from Fox News, they are so biased against Biden and the MAGA Crowd just keep spreading their lies. MBFC says Fox News sucks, etc."
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 2:22 PM
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Hilarious.
This bbbbutt your source isn't cwedibbble schtick is HILARIOUS; it gets even funnier when you're just trying to show a video.

They've literally quit trying on here. Movement liberals with their overreliance on "experts" have gotten more and more intellectually flabby over the years but this is a new level of vegetable they're hitting.

Thinking. Some people find it fun and rewarding; for others they only find a headache.

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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 4:59 PM
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BHM: "What BS coming from Fox News, they are so biased against Biden and the MAGA Crowd just keep spreading their lies. MBFC says Fox News sucks, etc."

That's called projection, BHM. I occasionally look at Fox online to see what they are selling.

If I saw that headline AND if I gave a damn about polls at this early juncture, I would check the statistic on a trustworthy source.

After verifying the veracity of the headline, ho-hum, Fox would still be an unreliable source because their business model requires them to preach to a cult. That's what they built. That''s what their stock in trade. If they changed to a fact-based mode, their customer base would decamp to OANN or Newsmax.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 7:00 PM
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That lame-o checker rates the BBC as a 'centrist' website. But let's look at who the Beeb employs, shall we?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13042143/...

A BBC editor was hired as an expert witness to help at least 15 Somalian criminals fight deportation – including a vile offender who sexually attacked a deaf teenage girl.

Last year, The Mail on Sunday exposed how Mary Harper, Africa Editor for the World Service, was paid to give expert witness evidence for Somali gang rapist Yaqub Ahmed during his five-year legal battle to stay in the UK.

Now an investigation by this newspaper can reveal Ms Harper has given expert witness evidence in a string of other controversial deportation appeals by Somali offenders – including for another three sex attackers, three drug dealers and a career criminal who spent a decade in British jails.


I'm sure her side gig as an expert witness had nothing to do with her job at the BBC nor any story she ever influenced. No sir. People like this are 1-offs inside of media organizations. Total unicorns.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 7:31 PM
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The Daily Mail? You've gotta be kidding me. That's like using the Bible to fact-check Nature.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/

Their rating is even lower than FOX for accuracy.

Plus, the story -even if correct-, and your extension of it, is a logical fallacy.

Are you sure you have a PhD? You don't seem to know how to evaluate data and evidence, and draw reasonable conclusions. Perhaps I should rephrase, and ask if it is a PhD in a technical field. A PhD in poly-sci or English lit is very different than a hard-science degree. Hard science is generally much more rigorous in terms of acceptable data and drawing conclusions.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 7:38 PM
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Are you sure you have a PhD?

Quite sure.
Had you bothered to read my post - it's clear you didn't - I put in a hedge.

The only thing more lazy than this trope of Only Approved Sites Are Acceptable are personal attacks, in which you're engaging right now. Unless you want me to respond in kind I'd suggest you re-think how you address others.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 7:56 PM
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I did read it. A "hedge"? The "unicorn" comment? I took that as sarcasm. Perhaps in error? If that was your hedge, you are correct. She may very well be the only one, assuming the story is correct at all. You don't know. What we do know is that the BBC survives innumerable fact checks intact. Their accuracy is high. I'm less concerned about right/left bias (which would be different in the UK anyway...Europe is already "left" on a US scale) as long as they are accurate.

Not intending a personal attack. As I said, I would hold a person with an English Lit degree to a lesser standard than a hard-science degree. Different disciplines, different criteria. I would not expect an English Lit person to be able to evaluate the quality of the evidence, nor the extent of it (i.e. how far one may extrapolate it, does it show a pattern, etc). They may be able to, but that is not required for their discipline.

The only thing I ding the BBC for is they are very pro-Royal. They gave some coverage to people objecting to the continuation of the monarchy (last year during the run-up to the coronation), but mostly it was "we're so excited". Nevermind that about 45% of the UK population thinks the monarchy should be abolished. An actual majority of those under (I think) 30 favor that.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 8:15 PM
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Hmm. Brits seem to disagree that the Beeb isn't biased.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/22/bbc-ge...

BBC audiences think the corporation is not “sufficiently impartial”, the Culture Secretary has said as she announces tougher scrutiny of the broadcaster to deal with perceived bias.

Lucy Frazer will announce that the BBC’s website and social media channels will be policed by Ofcom in an attempt to ensure impartiality.


Say, is there an example of bias?

The reforms follow fierce criticism of the BBC’s coverage of the war in Gaza and its refusal to brand Hamas a terrorist organisation.

LOL. No bias there!
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 8:52 PM
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Are you sure you have a PhD?

What is your Phd in? It's interesting you have one. WAs it necessary to advance in your chosen field?
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 10:22 PM
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"Overall, we rate Rumble Right Biased and Questionable based on the promotion of right-wing propaganda and conspiracy theories and false information, use of poor sources, and a lack of transparency."
Reasoning: Propaganda, Conspiracy, Poor Sourcing, False Information, Lack of Transparency
Bias Rating: FAR-RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW


This is one of the really big problems with our country today. Too many people can easily inhabit a world removed from facts and reality.

We are so dumbed down.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Shellenberger , terrific interview
Date: 02/04/2024 11:46 PM
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That lame-o checker rates the BBC as a 'centrist' website. But let's look at who the Beeb employs, shall we?

But if you got to a better source, you get better coverage:

Overall, we rate The Times and Sunday Times right-center biased based on story selection and editorial positions that favor the right and High for factual reporting due to a clean fact check record.


Insiders have cast doubt on whether a journalist who was hired as an expert witness by the legal team of a gang rapist sought the proper permissions from the BBC.

Mary Harper, a BBC Africa reporter, argued against Yaqub Ahmed, 34, being returned to Somalia. Ahmed, 34, was sent back to Somalia in August after a lengthy legal battle that was reported to have cost up to £1 million.

A source highlighted the BBC’s strict guidelines and processes that govern external engagements for staff.
“Had a request been submitted then there would have been a conversation with her manager about the case,” they said. “People are very aware of their responsibilities. There are concerns that it wasn’t flagged by the individual.”

A number of journalists expressed surprise at the situation and were unaware of any other instances in which staffers have provided legal evidence in court cases.

“She would have needed to get permission from management, even if it was unpaid,” one journalist said. “It’s so strange because we are policed with quite intrusive questions.”

They noted the thoroughness of the approvals system introduced by the BBC in January 2021 in a bid to provide great transparency around the engagements undertaken by staff.

Another added that it reflected terribly on the broadcaster. “Why was she asked? What is her connection to him?” they said.
Judges in the case dismissed many of Harper’s claims and raised concerns about her objectivity, according to The Mail on Sunday.
“It was concerning to hear that she had not read thoroughly key material concerning the appellant’s case,” they said. >b>“The failure to do so and the failure to make reference to previous contrary findings by the tribunal when providing her opinion about risk caused us to have concerns about the objectivity of her evidence on this issue.”

https://archive.is/20231121005215/https://www.thet...

Looks like she didn't ask permission from her bosses, etc. Explains why she was sacked. Rogue employee.
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