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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 11:23 AM
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...here's one!

When someone asks me how insane the democrat party is, I show them this:

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/pod-save-platner-...

Pod Save Platner: Obama Bros Described Hegseth Tattoo as 'Dog Whistle' Before Helping Maine's Platner Fend Off Scrutiny for Nazi Tattoo
Platner, a candidate for Maine's Senate seat, admitted to keeping a Nazi tattoo on his chest for nearly two decades but said he didn't know the meaning


When you've sold your soul to the progressive devil, there's literally nothing you won't do to try and get power. No lie you won't tell and no amount of gaslighting you won't do.

Witness...this board. Witness...much of the left.

The former Obama White House aides Tommy Vietor and Ben Rhodes, now hosts of the podcast Pod Save the World, helped the Maine Senate candidate frontrun the news that he has a Nazi tattoo emblazoned on his chest—a stark contrast to their condemnation of Secretary of War Pete Hegseth's tattoo of a Jerusalem Cross as a "dog whistle" for "white nationalists."

Platner revealed on Monday's episode that he got a tattoo resembling a Totenkopf—a skull and crossbones associated with Nazi Germany and white supremacists—in Croatia in 2007 while serving in the Marines. He claims to have been unaware of its symbolism, though associates have refuted that claim, with one saying Platner "knows damn well" what the ink means.


So the democrats, who shout long and loud about how the Republicans are Nazis are running for Senate...

...a guy with a massive SS tattoo emblazoned on his chest.

Some lib will come along and try to claim that tattoo has a perfectly innocent meaning, but save it. You'll just be making my point.
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 12:07 PM
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More whataboutism from the Dope?
It's getting embarrassing.

Whataboutism is closely related to the tu quoque ("you too") fallacy, a subtype of the ad hominem argument.
It attempts to undermine the critic’s position by accusing them of similar or worse behavior, rather than addressing the substance of the original criticism.
This is generally considered a logical fallacy because:
1) Even if the counter-accusation is true, it does not refute or excuse the original wrongdoing.
2) It distracts from the issue at hand, often derailing productive discussion.
Most uses of whataboutism are attempts to avoid accountability and do not address the original argument.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 1:59 PM
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He claims to have been unaware of its symbolism, though associates have refuted that claim, with one saying Platner "knows damn well" what the ink means.

Easy enough, ask the other marines who got it that night with him. The associate looks to have an axe to grind.
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Author: Hawkwin   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 2:43 PM
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Not a lib here but once I learned of his tat, I became a lot less interest in supporting him. I was certainly a fan prior (my fb feed is full of his stuff lately).

Him not knowing what it was is not a legitimate excuse. That being stated, I am open to the idea of a person learning from their mistakes - but they need to own them.

Hawkwin
Consistent
And yes some Reps, from their own words, are Nazis (or at least wannabes).
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 3:05 PM
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Him not knowing what it was is not a legitimate excuse.

What was that we learned, from watching police shows, years ago? "Ignorance is not an excuse"...especially after someone went to the trouble, and expense, of having the thing put on.

Steve
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 3:09 PM
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Easy enough, ask the other marines who got it that night with him. The associate looks to have an axe to grind.

LOL. It's a well known SS tattoo.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 3:11 PM
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Not a lib here but once I learned of his tat, I became a lot less interest in supporting him. I was certainly a fan prior (my fb feed is full of his stuff lately).

Long time no see, Hawk.
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Author: Lapsody   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 5:33 PM
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Not a lib here but once I learned of his tat, I became a lot less interest in supporting him. I was certainly a fan prior (my fb feed is full of his stuff lately).

I never heard of him, I've never seen that particular tattoo before, he'll never be on any ballot I use, so it's nothing I'll encounter again.

Skull and crossbones is a pirate flag to me. :)
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Author: Lapsody   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 5:55 PM
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What was that we learned, from watching police shows, years ago? "Ignorance is not an excuse"...especially after someone went to the trouble, and expense, of having the thing put on.

I don't think so. Human nature...

EX: Ariana Grande's tattoo:
Intended to mean "seven rings," it was mistranslated to "Japanese small charcoal grill"

Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4enWZ68cd8

"Receive" or "bottom":
A tattoo meant to be "love" was instead the kanji for "receive," which is also used as gay slang for "bottom" in Japan,

https://www.tiktok.com/@oyasumisushi/video/7461273...

We put all kind of dumb stuff on out bodies.
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 10:12 PM
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Skull and crossbones is a pirate flag to me. :)

Ever watch "Hogan's Heroes"? SS Major Hochstetter. The skull and crossbones insignia is on his cap.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hhwikia/images/9...

Steve
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 10:36 PM
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"Hogan's Heroes"? SS Major Hochstetter. The skull and crossbones insignia is on his cap.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hhwikia/images/9...


Link doesn't work, but I looked him up and yes it looks like it is. Too small for me, I want a Jolly Roger. :) I don't remember his character either. I remember more the man who played Hogan getting bludgeoned to death by a gay lover, Sargent Schultz "I know nothing!", and a couple of other characters - one hosted a game show after that.
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 10:48 PM
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Sargent Schultz "I know nothing!", and a couple of other characters - one hosted a game show after that.

The game show host was Richard Dawson, played Peter Newkirk in "Heroes".

Hochstetter was a recurring character, but not in every episode. He yelled a lot. Kink was terrified of him, even though Kink, being a Colonel, outranked him, because the Gestapo and SS scared everyone.

Here's a typical interaction between Hochstetter and Klink.

One of Hogan’s Heroes Best Moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fAgkXQhHTg

Steve
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/22/25 10:50 PM
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https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/totenkop...
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Author: PucksFool 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/23/25 4:20 AM
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Here's the Mad Magazine parody of Hogan's Heroes.
http://hofbrau.freeservers.com/mad.htm
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Author: UpNorthJoe   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/23/25 8:38 AM
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I really liked Hogans Hero's, as a kid.

Still remember watching an episode with my Dad, who fought them in WWII.
I remember commenting on how dumb the German's were, and he stopped me
and told me that they were really good soldiers, fierce fighters.
Remember him telling me how HH is just a comedy, that in the real POW camps,
the Americans and Brits had a very hard time of it.

I don't remember how old I was at the time, but somewhere in the 7-9 year
old phase. The HH shows were probably reruns. But I do know I started
understanding that TV portrayals were pretty fake, maybe with just a seed of
truth.

I also luv'd the reruns of Rat Patrol. But watching jeep mounted machine
guns take out tanks in head to head fights was too much for even a young
kid. I understood that was highly, highly unlikely, without any input
from my Dad.

Too bad that all of the American adults who watched The Apprentice were
not able to discern fact from total BS, lol.
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/23/25 10:32 AM
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I remember commenting on how dumb the German's were, and he stopped me
and told me that they were really good soldiers, fierce fighters.


Irony department: most of the actors who played the Germans were Jewish. The actor who played Klink, Werner Klemperer, insisted that he play the part as a buffoon. There is a line in "The Password Is Courage", words to the effect "they don't put the brainy ones in charge of POW camps" More trivia. The actor who played the French soldier, Robert Clary, was a concentration camp survivor. Clary was the last of the original cast to pass, in 2022. One of the eps was taken from a personal experience of Leon Askin, who played General Burkhalter, while he was in a French internment camp for "enemy civilians" in 1940.

Being an old phart, I watched HH when it was new, in the mid 60s. I still watch it. Two eps every weeknight on MeTV.

Yes, it's a sitcom. But there is a sinister undercurrent, the fear and repression of the Nazi regime, the fact that people were dying all around them, every day.

My dad was a WWII vet too. The Germans were running out of motivation late in the war. He told of a time his unit, 155 howitzer battery, set up camp at the bottom of a hill. There was a Waffen SS unit on the top of the hill. The next morning, the SS troops came down the hill and surrendered.

wrt "Rat Patrol", ever hear of the SAS, "Special Air Service"? Elite British commando unit. They started, in North Africa, during the war, using machine gun armed Jeeps. There is a pretty good book about the wartime years of the SAS:

The Phantom Major - Africa 1942: the Story of Major Stirling and the Desert Raiders

https://www.amazon.com/Phantom-Major-Africa-Stirli...

Here's a trailer for "The Password Is Courage". I enjoy it. Have it in my personal collection, along with "The Great Escape".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM4HkxAOwxs

Steve

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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/23/25 1:36 PM
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Irony department: most of the actors who played the Germans were Jewish. The actor who played Klink, Werner Klemperer, insisted that he play the part as a buffoon.

Small world.... My step-mom's German uncles created a major talent agency on Sunset Blvd just down the street from Schwabs Pharmacy; agents for a lot of refugee artists including John Banner and Werner Klemperer. They hosted big Xmas open houses, so I got to know those guys when I was growing up.

A fan of Hogan's Heroes, I knew enough to not do my Sgt Schultz imitation when greeting them.

Irrelevant anecdote: Wermacht helmets, iron crosses and swastikas were, for a brief time, not uncommon symbols in the early world of surfing as symbols of rebellion against the system.
I believe I was about 11 or 12 when my Dad said he'd clobber me if he saw another swastika on my brown paper shopping bag textbook covers.

https://www.surfertoday.com/surfing/surf-nazis-the...
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/23/25 2:38 PM
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A fan of Hogan's Heroes, I knew enough to not do my Sgt Schultz imitation when greeting them.

There was one ep I saw where Schultz explained his rational for wilful blindness: if he told Klink something Klink didn't want to hear, he'd be off to the Russian front. Just like some of the places I worked. Don't ever, ever, tell management what it does not want to hear, or you will suffer consequences.

Steve
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Author: UpNorthJoe   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/23/25 8:21 PM
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Ever watch the movie Stalag 17 ?
Great movie, imo.

Much more realistic portrayal of German soldiers. Good plot, too.
It's been a few years since I've watched it, will have to watch it again
sometime in the winter months.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046359/
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/23/25 9:33 PM
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sometime in the winter months.

Lessee...the "cold grey bucket of suck" lasts from November into late April here. So, add two more months in Traverse?

Yes, saw Stalag 17 many times. May have that one in my personal collection too.

Yesterday, having finished "Stargate SG-1" during my bike pedaling sessions, I started watching "V" from the early 80s. The original miniseries was based/inspired by "It Can't Happen Here" about a fascist takeover of the US. Of course, you can get away with things if you cast it as SciFi. A lot of familiar touchpoints: scientists, feared by the aliens, as they may figure out the alien's true nature, become demagogued as a massive conspiracy to overthrow the government. The aliens use that supposed massive conspiracy to declare martial law and take control of the media. People who don't toe the line start disappearing. Unfortunately, from a good start, "V" started to run downhill when it went to a weekly series. Still campy fun.

Why you need to watch V: The Original Miniseries (1983)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTAwQIiS-Ww

Steve
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Author: Hawkwin   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/25/25 9:24 PM
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::waves::

I rarely visit because this site is blocked at work.
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Author: onepoorguy   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: And speaking of Nazis...
Date: 10/26/25 2:07 PM
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I rarely visit because this site is blocked at work.

Pity. You were never "unhinged". We often disagreed about something, but yours was a rational voice. We could use more of those.
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