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Author: commonone 🐝🐝 BRONZE
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Subject: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/24/26 4:43 PM
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Alex Pretti, who was killed by ICE agents, was putting himself between ICE agents and a woman, trying to protect her from them. He put his hand up, backed away, and had no handgun in his hand, only his phone, and ICE agents repeatedly sprayed Pretti in the face with a chemical agent, tackled him, and disarmed him.

You can see the agent in the gray coat run away with Pretti's gun before the first shots are fired. Pretti was unarmed when he was shot.

https://bsky.app/profile/muellershewrote.com/post/...
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/24/26 5:17 PM
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Pretti was unarmed when he was shot.

Murder charges against ALL the ICE/CBP personnel involved. Jails will fill up quickly, as these types of crimes can carry a mandatory life jail sentence with no probation or parole.
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/24/26 5:28 PM
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You can see the agent in the gray coat run away with Pretti's gun before the first shots are fired. Pretti was unarmed when he was shot.

I can't tell from the scrum. The guy in the gray coat could be carrying his own gun.

Let's give this the smell test: if you were at the bottom of a pile of ICE officers, why in the world would you pull your gun?

Carrying a gun is not that unusual in Shinyland, anymore. Even in the far west burbs of Detroit, where I live. I was sitting in a pizza carry out, waiting for my pizza, and a couple young women came in. One had a pistol in the waistband of her pants. Such is the country we have built over the last 40 years.

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Author: commonone 🐝🐝 BRONZE
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/24/26 5:42 PM
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Steve203: I can't tell from the scrum. The guy in the gray coat could be carrying his own gun.

Nope. His hands are empty when he approaches Pretti. You looking at the right guy. Biggest guy there, light gray coat, comes in from the right side, hands empty until he removes the gun.

Clear here: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlvpbr/foot...
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/24/26 5:46 PM
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Murder charges against ALL the ICE/CBP personnel involved. Jails will fill up quickly, as these types of crimes can carry a mandatory life jail sentence with no probation or parole.

In his presser today, Gov Walz said files are being compiled to file charges against the ICE officers involved. Good luck with that. Trump the Perfect will protect his storm troopers, and possibly toss the Gov and Mayor in prison, when he invoked martial law in the metro MSP area, which is where the bulk of Minnesota Dem votes are.

LIVE: MN Gov. Tim Walz holds news conference after fatal shooting from federal agent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDjcqxf7dOs

I was wondering why Trump the God didn't attack Cali or NY, as there are more Dem votes to suppress there. Maybe Minnesota and Maine are trial runs, to see if he gets away with it.

Michigan is purple. The God King Trump carried Michigan in 24. Maybe, I'll be allowed to vote this fall.

Steve
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/24/26 6:41 PM
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lear here: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlvpbr/foot...

Clearer, but I had to pause it, take a screenshot and zoom in. Your eyes must be better than mine.

The gun is pretty evident in the gray coat man's right hand at about the 39 second mark. He's holding it by the barrel I think, which makes sense if he just grabbed it off the soon-to-be-dead Mr. Petti.
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Author: commonone 🐝🐝 BRONZE
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/24/26 7:40 PM
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g0177325: He's holding it by the barrel I think

No, he's holding the gun by its grip. Better image here, frame 15.2s: https://bsky.app/profile/barbarasobel.bsky.social/...
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/24/26 8:21 PM
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No, he's holding the gun by its grip.

A police veteran was asked about the situation on the NBC evening news. The officer said, of course, that carrying a property licensed gun is not a crime in the US. The officers would only be justified in shooting, if Pretti had pulled the gun, brandished the gun, or said words to the effect he intended to shoot the officers. Personally, if there were half a dozen officers on me, I understand do NOT pull a gun, because that makes you a legit target.

Finding a gun on his person, one officer shouted "gun", to alert the others, as they are trained to do. When local authorities asked the officers who saw Pretti brandish the gun, there was no answer.

Steve
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Author: g0177325   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/24/26 9:13 PM
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No, he's holding the gun by its grip. Better image here, frame 15.2s

Ok, I think I can see the trigger guard, and it does look like the grip he's holding.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/25/26 11:00 AM
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I was wondering why Trump the God didn't attack Cali or NY, as there are more Dem votes to suppress there.

The agricultural regions of California are quite red.

The first weeks of ICE action our ag labor panicked and simply didn't show up. I think that generated a lot of irate messaging from the big ag companies that back conservative candidates.

Note that the FoxTrump admin and DHS stopped yakking about both BadBunny and making sure only Americans can attend the upcoming superbowl in Santa Clara .
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/25/26 11:25 AM
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The agricultural regions of California are quite red.

Outstate Minnesota is red too. The states four Dem House members are all from the metro MSP area. The four Repubs represent outstate. Declare "insurrection" in the metro area, so the Dems don't vote, while the Repubs outstate do vote. Repeat in Cali and NY: shut down the Dem voting cities, while the rural, red, areas vote, and Trump the Magnificent and Perfect has an even more compliant Congress.

Steve
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Video, Another Angle
Date: 01/25/26 12:19 PM
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making sure only Americans can attend the upcoming superbowl in Santa Clara .

Which is why Spankee can NOT attend. He would not be allowed into the US.
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