Subject: Re: Mungofitch Counterintuitive
What still perplexes me is that Air-France-KLM SA pops up in today's screen. It has a market cap of $3.18B but total debt of $19.390B!
Probably aircraft leases?
Not sure how that fits with the screen criteria, but skipping airline stocks is never such a terrible idea : )
Mr Buffett in 2007 (before he bought into a bunch of airlines, yet again, and lost money):
"The worst sort of business is one that grows rapidly, requires significant capital to engender the growth, and then earns little or no money. Think airlines. Here a durable competitive advantage has proven elusive ever since the days of the Wright Brothers. Indeed, if a farsighted capitalist had been present at Kitty Hawk, he would have done his successors a huge favor by shooting Orville down. The airline industry’s demand for capital ever since that first flight has been insatiable. Investors have poured money into a bottomless pit, attracted by growth when they should have been repelled by it. And I, to my shame, participated in this foolishness when I had Berkshire buy U.S. Air preferred stock in 1989. As the ink was drying on our check, the company went into a tailspin, and before long our preferred dividend was no longer being paid. But we then got very lucky. In one of the recurrent, but always misguided, bursts of optimism for airlines, we were actually able to sell our shares in 1998 for a hefty gain. In the decade following our sale, the company went bankrupt. Twice. To sum up, think of three types of “savings accounts.” The great one pays an extraordinarily high interest rate that will rise as the years pass. The good one pays an attractive rate of interest that will be earned also on deposits that are added. Finally, the gruesome account both pays an inadequate interest rate and requires you to keep adding money at those disappointing returns."
Actually that first bit reminds me of some LLM companies...
"The worst sort of business is one that grows rapidly, requires significant capital to engender the growth, and then earns little or no money."
Hmmmm.
Jim