Subject: Re: o/t, debtors and creditors,
What I've gotten out of this thread was the "Juncker Rule" (or "Curse"), referenced by mungofitch.

I'd never heard of it before, so I tracked down the reference:

""We all know what to do, but we don’t know how to get re-elected once we have done it."
- Jean-Claude Juncker, Prime Minister of Luxembourg and President of the Eurogroup.
The Economist (2007), "The Quest for Prosperity", March 15th."

It goes in the Quotations file. Thanks, Jim!

--sutton