Subject: Re: <i>But I don't think the Dems have the
There were also links. If you won't take my word for it, go back and read the lengthy discussion between BHM and albaby (and to a lesser degree, myself and others). I've told you the facts, in as brief a summary as I can. It would be repetitive to recount them again if you refuse to accept it, so I won't.

I'm almost certain they're using "illegal immigrants" incorrectly. It is an op-ed piece. There are those who try to avoid detection, but that is not the majority anymore. That's 1980s thinking, when that was the majority. Now they are refugees from all over the world (though mostly Central America and South America) fleeing persecution and death. They want to encounter the Border Patrol so they can request asylum. The latter are completely legal.

Though I will comment that no matter who wins in November, there will not be any serious effort to reform immigration laws. Republicans let that slip through their fingers this month. It is unlikely they'll get another opportunity to shove more restrictive laws down the throats of progressives for another decade or three. Maybe not for the remainder of my life. Voting immigration in November is senseless because no matter who wins, they can't and won't do anything.