Subject: Re: War ravaged Portland
Because you typically can't "lock people up and throw away the key" for violating noise ordinances.
And here we go with the millimeter context narrowing and the two-fer of implying There's Nothing To Be Done:
And you usually can't use noise ordinances or other minor violations pretextually to end protests that you dislike. If they're protesting without engaging in any activity that would normally result in criminal arrests (rather than civil enforcement), it's going to be hard to support an arrest.
What happens in Portland night after night - over 100 and counting - is much more that "protests [I] dislike". They don't protest without engaging in nasty behavior. Why, pray tell, are all the windows boarded up at that facility?
You use the noise ordinances and nuisance complaints to disperse the crowd before they get out of hand. I'm not aware of any permits that allow loud protests at 1AM, are you?
But this deserves its own LOL, along with a Come on, man:
Portland has no obligation to prioritize enforcement activities towards minor infractions because the protestors make ICE unhappy.
So the whole injuring cops thing, busting into the ICE facility is a nothingburger. Just kids having fun, amirite?
Again: It's okay to call a lump of crap a lump of crap and the ""protests"" (air quotes) outside the ICE facilities are destructive. No two ways about it.
The large crowd that you linked to in that article was dispersed by Portland police. They were driven off using a combination of crowd control measures and arresting individuals that were observed engaging in criminal behavior. Portland officials stopped that group, using fairly standard responses.
Oh, so you *do* acknowledge that these things are out of hand? Did that stop the riots and assaults or did they continue?
The "100 days" folks are a much smaller crowd that's just been protesting in front of the ICE building. Unless those guys have been breaking glass and launching fireworks continuously for the last three months, I think you're getting them confused.
Erm, no. Antifa counts on the revolving door that is the blue jurisdiction legal system. They know that even if they get taken into custody they're out in an hour with any charges either outright dismissed or lowered to jaywalking infractions. The reason why they don't pull this stuff in, say, Texas, is that they'll get slapped with serious felony charges
At the height of the Seattle riots when we were...making sure Antifa learned that our neighborhood wasn't the place to be I spoke to a Seattle cop about them. He said that they're big and bad on the street but the second the cops grab one they go super docile. Given the above, care to guess why that is? It's because they know if they keep their traps shut it's tough to charge them with anything and if they act up while in police custody there's a non-zero chance of landing charges that actually stick.
So they riot all they want and have an automatic get out of jail free card. Win-win! for them. Not so much if you live near the chaos.
I genuinely am not sure what point you're trying to get at here - what does it suggest? The incident in the article was cleared by Portland PB, so I really don't understand why the June date is significant.
Today's date is September 29, 2025. The article was from June 15, 2029 or so. Doesn't it strike you as odd that these disturbances have been ongoing for several months now and neither the city nor the state is doing the slightest thing to deal with it? Please don't go back to the "protests [I] don't like" thing; that's a red herring: the peace is being disturbed, federal agents are being threatened and violently attacked night after night and the residents have to put up with this on a daily basis.