Subject: Re: 'NEVER SURRENDER'
Dope1: So a meeting the very next day when none of the court cases were resolved and some states weren't even done was a conspiracy.

Trump lost Michigan by 154,000 votes. And he started losing in court in Michigan on November 6. He lost in Michigan's Wayne County Circuit courtroom on November 13.

The Oval Office gathering with the folks listed below took place on November 20, 2020, after Trump had lost in Michigan courts.

Chatfield said Trump told the group -- Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, House Speaker Jason Wentworth, incoming Senate Minority Leader Aric Nesbitt, and former House Speaker Lee Chatfield along with Trump and his attorney, Rudy Giuliani, who joined in via telephone -- to "have some backbone and do the right thing," which Chatfield understood to mean overturning the election by naming Michigan's Electoral College electors for Trump.

After Shirkey and Chatfield said they could not change the outcome of the election in Michigan, Trump and his team maliciously tweeted out Shirkey's personal cell phone number and a number for Chatfield that turned out to be wrong. Shirkey received nearly 4,000 text messages and the private citizen whose wrong number was shared, reported being inundated with calls and texts intended for Chatfield.

So despite the fact that you're wrong -- Trump had already started losing in Michigan courts -- it's also immaterial. Trump was trying to intimidate Shirkey and Chatfield to illegally shift Michigan's electors from the winner, Biden, to the loser, himself.

Jeebus, Trump's losing margin was so wide, he didn't even qualify for a recount.

And for the record, Clinton only lost Michigan by less than 11,000 votes compared with Trump's loss in 2020 by over 150,000 votes. Her campaign did not pursue a recount because they "had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology." The Green Party pursed several recounts which the Clinton campaign then joined but said they expected no changes in the outcomes.

Clinton had already conceded the election.

The Trump campaign screamed bloody murder at the Green Party's request for recounts and with the Clinton campaign joining them.

TRUMP: "This is a scam by the Green Party for an election that has already been conceded, and the results of this election should be respected instead of being challenged and abused, which is exactly what Jill Stein is doing."

But yeah, adults are talking but you're not one of them and neither is Trump.