Subject: Re: OT: Ukraine and Russia
>>The final withdrawal under the Biden was about 15% of the US presence when the agreement was signed.<<

We old phartz remember the last days of Saigon. Remember when Jerry Ford, with the best of intentions, organized an airlift of orphans or mixed race spawn of GIs? He sent a C5, then the biggest cargo plane the USAF had, to Saigon, where it was packed full of children. The plane took off, the back cargo door blew out, and the plane crashed. I think Jerry was a fundamentally decent person, but his administration was snake-bit. So was Carter's.

Retreats, when you lost, are always a mess. There is a section of stairway in the Ford Museum, in Grand Rapids. It is from the stairway that lead to the rooftop helipad of the US embassy in Saigon. Newspapers were full of pix of people crowding on those stairs, trying to get on a helo, to be evacuated to US ships standing offshore.

Steve