Subject: Re: She Had No Face
I can eliminate most crime by giving the government the ability to search/seize anything it wants at any time. Since I'm trading my right to self defense Because Save The Children, surely you're willing to trade your rights to privacy and freedom from search and seizure Because No Crime Is Good, yes?

No. As you intuited in your earlier post, whether it's a worthwhile policy depends largely on how you value the pros and cons of that exchange (and the empirical question of whether that policy would "eliminate most crime," which seems unlikely).

Advocates of eliminating firearms typically do not hide the fact that they regard access to firearms as a relatively unimportant - if not utterly worthless - right in a modern western industrialized society. And indeed, there are several examples of western industrialized societies (like Japan, noted above) that have implemented that position. In contrast, there are few (if any) serious advocates of "giving the government the ability to search/seize anything it wants at any time," and nearly all folks arguing in good faith would claim that that right is an important and valuable one.

Albaby