Subject: Re: The immigration debate is over'
Oh, yes. I lived in SoCal and have seen the fencing long before Trump came into the picture. There are areas where it helps a bit, but just assists the border patrol. Like anything else, we can't afford to catch every single illegal alien coming into the US. But, in cost effective vs symbolic wall for the Republican base, symbolism wins.

But we do things like arrest people for leaving water bottles out for those crossing. Disheartening. Don't need no good book if it's thrown at the poor. I lived in Panama for four years and went to school there as a kid. I prefer mixed neighborhoods and partly workingmen vs the sterile upscale ones. I think my wife finally understands that.

I know that many of the immigrants have better morals than some Americans. They can live in part of my neighborhood.