Subject: Re: Let’s See If This Pans Out for Putin
And that libs forgot that France was a country back then.

This is not the libs forgetting that France was a country. This is you misunderstanding the reason that the American Revolution was a comparable situation.

No one disputes (or forgets) that the U.S. was aided by foreign countries in the American Revolution. Not only did France (and later Spain) supply resources to the Continental Army, but they (especially France) supplied large numbers of soldiers and sailors.

But that's not relevant.

The American Revolution isn't an example of "small country defeated big one without outside troops." It's an example of "small army induced much larger army to leave even though it could never have forced them out of the country if they wanted to stay.

Yes, the Continental Army was joined by French troops. But at no point could they have ever physically forced Britain to leave North America. Even with the French contribution, the Patriot forces were never powerful enough to drive Britain off the continent if Britain had been willing to continue their military presence there.

Instead, the scenario unfolded exactly the way the Ukrainians are trying to do. Britain couldn't be dislodged, but the cost of the war (in money and military resources) was exhausting to the Crown. There was no way for Britain to be thrown out of the continent, but increasingly it was clear that there was no way they were going to actually end the fighting by destroying the Continental Army. That's why Parliament voted to (essentially) force King George to agree to negotiate peace, even though he personally wanted to continue the fight. Not because Britain's military was forcibly dislodged from their positions, but because it just wasn't worth it to keep fighting.

You missed the analogy. It's not, "America is like Ukraine because they didn't have outside troops." It's "America is like Ukraine because they never had the power to drive the British out (even with help), but the British left on their own because it wasn't worth the continued fight." Also worth noting that the war took eight years for the Americans to win. Sometimes wars to drive out a larger military power can't be won in just a few years.