Subject: Re: Let’s See If This Pans Out for Putin
Both albaby and myself have pointed out that we haven't reached that stage yet

Uh, huh. And are there no potential partisans behind Russian lines?

*shakes head*.

The point is that a big country trying to absorb a little country almost always doesn't work. Even if they are there for years, in the end they usually leave. As in the examples I (and others) gave. You are the one refusing to see that.

The both of you are attempting to limit things to the last 60 years (when the world has been at relative peace). I forgot two other examples. China has control over much of Tibet and of course North Vietnam forcibly annexed South Vietnam.

Russia of course has the Crimea and they’re not giving it back very soon.

You say this
Putin is toast as long as Europe supports Ukraine.

Then you say this
No, Ukraine will never push Russia out.

So according to you Russia will…just leave once Putin is “toast”.

Sure, Jan. You *do* understand that Russia doesn’t consider the territory they’ve taken to be something they’re “taking” but rather “reclaiming”, right? Maybe not.

Lots of “experts” have issued your take(s) since 2023 and Putin is still there. What you’re unwilling to understand is that the Russians are very good at evading sanctions. They’re very good at rebuilding wrecked stuff. And they don’t give a crap how many lives they throw away.

You’re doing the typical westerner thing where you’re imprinting whatever
Your values are on the rest of the world. The rest of the world don’t work like that: Russians are *used* to sacrificing for the Motherland. It’s what they do.