Subject: Re: NYT: Biden Border Disaster
Dope1,

Your double-and triple talking Eurotrash catfishing debate adversary is completely missing the point anyway.

Which is, what is the substantive status of all these people ICE is trying to apprehend and remove?

They're not in the country legally.

They are subject to apprehension, detention, and removal.

With or without a judicial warrant.

Maybe ICE needs a judicial warrant to break the front door of their house down with a battering ram to apprehend them.

O.K. so get the warrant and do it.

That's just a procedural step.

Normally law enforcement is going to try to get consent of the property owner or occupant before doing something like that because what's the point of breaking someone's door down just because they are scoff laws and don't respect the laws of the United States?

It's ridiculous.

Instead of advocating for the evasion of law enforcement--which is a totally criminal mentality--the Leftist poseurs on here should be encouraging the illegal aliens to cooperate with law enforcement and get their cases resolved as quickly as possible with as little drama as possible.

But they don't. The Left is anarchic, chaotic, hates authority, hates the law, hates the United States.

These people have a criminal mind set.

It's like people who evade service of a summons where they are a defendant in a civil case. Successful evasion of the summons only delays due process and increases costs and drama for all involved. And only scumbags do it. Only scumbags encourage other scumbags to deliberately evade legal process.

Or like scoff laws or criminals who jump bail or miss court appearances and have failure to appear warrants issued.

The warrant is only necessary because the person is a scumbag/scofflaw/criminal in the first place.

If you claim a defense including innocence, mistaken identity, government error, or anything else, the place you prove that is in court. With an attorney if need be.

If an illegal alien claims he or she should not be deported, for whatever reason, the way to address that is in court (assuming they even have the right to an immigration court hearing in the first place). A lot of them have Orders of Removal that are years old so they don't necessarily have the right to a new hearing. They already had the hearing (or failed to appear for it) and they just ignored the outcome.

So you leftists phoneys, don't tell me why and who needs a warrant to do what where when how and to who.

Explain why you are defending illegal alien scofflaws. What's the point other than hatred for America and disrespect of the immigration laws?

You guys just don't believe in the rule of law.

That's why whenever a conservative supreme court makes a ruling you don't like--even though to a man/woman, NONE of you have ever actually read any of the decisions that you complaint about--you're just parroting Jeff Tiedrich or Heather Cox Richardson or similar social media imbecile that was fed to you on your facebook or X or bluesky feed--you don't think for yourselves at all.

If ICE knocks at your door without the proper warrant then no you don't have to answer it. But the only sane advice to give to people in that situation is to obtain an attorney and get legal advice.

Not to evade or obstruct ICE enforcement efforts.

But if you do, don't be surprised if when you finally have to leave your house to go to the store or pick up your kids at school, ICE might take that opportunity to apprehend you (since it's in public, no judicial warrant required).

Don't advocate and adopt a strategy of total non cooperation with law enforcement, then complain of the consequences of that. Don't whine to the NY TIMES if you've been in the country illegally for years or decades that ICE finally caught up with you at an "inconvenient time."

Tough shit, sleep in the bed you made.