Subject: Re: Peace Plan might not even be about Gaza's Fut
That seems inaccurate. You clearly believe that U.S. foreign policy should try to change the world - specifically, to try to reduce China's strength and power globally and reorient as many of the world's countries towards the U.S. and away from China as possible.

No. "Meeting the world where it is" is a cultural statement. What are your plans for instituting democracy in say, Saudi Arabia? Gonna force it on them? Or gradually nudge them towards reforms (as bin Salman seems to be doing)? Are you planning on insisting these places hold US-style elections tomorrow?

How'd that work out for us in Iraq?

You're looking at the world not as it is but through your cultural lens.

But because these are oppressive monarchies and dictatorships who correctly feared having too close an alignment with the U.S. (and therefore Israel) because of our arm-twisting on human rights.

Trump's transactional approach to foreign policy eliminated that block.


I think you're misremembering how we've treated the middle east and other places for some time now. Remember Bush43 walking hand in hand with the Kind of Saudi Arabia? Or Obama bowing to the guy? How many "banana wars" did we fight? What about Somoza in Nicaragua? Or others?

Which is why I wonder if the Peace Plan isn't really about Gaza at all, but just clearing the way for Abraham Accords Mk II and letting Gaza just go back to 10/6.

Yes on the first part of this, emphatic NO on the second part. The Israelis are not letting Gaza go back to 10/6. That, in their minds, is the best way to guarantee there will be another 10/6.