Subject: Re: Hmmmm
Like I said, I get it. Given present Israeli attitudes that I've seen (various interviews with "people on the street"), they want all the land and don't really care what happens to the Palestinians. Similar to Europeans (later the USA) and the indigenous peoples (later "native Americans"). The history is done. The natives are not getting Manhattan back (or pretty much anything else).

So it is with Israel. They will never give back the land. They don't care about the Palestinians. They appear to be cool with extermination. I think attitudes have hardened in Israel, even before October 2024. Like the native Americans, the Palestinians are getting nothing. Or, at best, reservations.

The only way they will kill the idea of Hamas is to kill pretty much all the Palestinians. Like the VC before them, they are firmly embedded in the civilian population. It is true that not all insurgencies succeed, or survive. Native Americans. Native Hawaiians. Both spring to mind. OTOH, there is the Moro Liberation Front. There is the NPA (Philippines). There is FARC. There is Hamas (the one we're talking about). There's another one in Asia that for the life of me I can't remember the name...been fighting for decades. All these are intertwined with civilian populations, all these persevere, and none of them are going away. And the governments can't "go home" because it is in their home (unlike Israel/Hamas, which is "just" adjacent to their home).

Maybe Israel could starve them of military support by taking out Iran. Lots of problems with that, but I think that's the only way to choke Hamas. Bombing Gaza isn't doing it, and I don't think it will succeed. Even if they get the leaders, someone else will take over. Either a new leader, or a new group that the survivors of Hamas can join.